My family has been intentionally avoiding attendance at the new combined ward because we believe that this is the prime time for ward leadership to fill/extend calling positions and we would rather avoid all that.
It also doesn't help that the new meeting time is at 9am (our old meeting time was noon).
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That's smart.
Church is at noon?
I prefer church at 9:00AM.
The schedule changed and now church is at 9:00AM? I prefer church at noon.
But honestly, it all depends on the time of year for me. Mornings work better when it's cold out and afternoons work better when it's hot out. Basically times that aren't good to be outdoors doing other things.
Just don't be like me.
Church is at noon?
I prefer church at 9:00AM.The schedule changed and now church is at 9:00AM?
I prefer church at noon. But honestly, it all depends on the time of year for me. Mornings work better when it's cold out and afternoons work better when it's hot out. Basically times that aren't good to be outdoors doing other things.
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There isn't a good time to meet for families with young children.
Most of my sacrament meetings that I attended as the solo parent with an older child from the time that my baby was about 2 months old to almost 4 years old were the "how long until I have to take a kid [and by extension both kids] out of the meeting" time bombs. It was anyone's guess whether the baby or the older child would need to be out of the meeting (or whether they would act as catalysts to speed up the removal process). When my baby was about 3, we finally had a friend in the branch that my oldest would sit with so that I could just deal with the little one.
But what if we converted part of that parking space into a gigantic play space (like McDonald's has) with really good sound systems so that the parents could actually hear the meeting while their kids climbed to their hearts content? That would be awesome. Yes. some church buildings would need 2-3 of them, and they would be a pain to keep clean - but that would actually really support the "young family" stage.
Most of my sacrament meetings that I attended as the solo parent with an older child from the time that my baby was about 2 months old to almost 4 years old were the "how long until I have to take a kid [and by extension both kids] out of the meeting" time bombs. It was anyone's guess whether the baby or the older child would need to be out of the meeting (or whether they would act as catalysts to speed up the removal process). When my baby was about 3, we finally had a friend in the branch that my oldest would sit with so that I could just deal with the little one.
But what if we converted part of that parking space into a gigantic play space (like McDonald's has) with really good sound systems so that the parents could actually hear the meeting while their kids climbed to their hearts content? That would be awesome. Yes. some church buildings would need 2-3 of them, and they would be a pain to keep clean - but that would actually really support the "young family" stage.
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When I first joined the church in the dark age known as the 1980s we met in a building that had 3 wards. It was the 3 hour block and overlapping hadn't been thought of yet (although our building was plenty large enough). One ward met at 9, the next at 12, and the last at 3, rotating every January 1. As a young single in those days I preferred noon, but other that sleeping in I reckoned it had the benefit of not blowing the whole day and you had a bit of time in the morning to put finishing touches on lessons, talks, etc. I gave no thought to families because it didn't matter to me. Our ward was quite mixed as it was a military ward, lost of families and lots of singles (and permanent residents some of who were older).
The ward I have lived in for 30+ years is the only ward in our building, although we did share for a year while a neighboring building was being renovated. When the kids were small we met at 9, and that was OK although it was sometimes a challenge to get all of us out the door and it generally meant no late Saturday nights. The kids were hungry and tired and bored by noon, but we could go home and have lunch and get on with things. At some point later, still the 3 hour block, they changed the time to 9:30 (10 met too much resistance) to accommodate those who were always late because they couldn't get it together for 9. They couldn't (and can't) get it together for 9:30 either. My experience in the 3 ward building was the same people who were late at 9 were also late at 12 and 3 (it has nothing to do with start time) and I vigorously asserted that opinion to no avail, but since the kids were older (teens) it had less effect on us.
Nowadays as a retired guy (and just empty nesters to begin with) 9:30 is fine (9 would work too). I wouldn't want to go later than 10. My biggest issue is dragging DW away (and that's more literal than you probably think).
The ward I have lived in for 30+ years is the only ward in our building, although we did share for a year while a neighboring building was being renovated. When the kids were small we met at 9, and that was OK although it was sometimes a challenge to get all of us out the door and it generally meant no late Saturday nights. The kids were hungry and tired and bored by noon, but we could go home and have lunch and get on with things. At some point later, still the 3 hour block, they changed the time to 9:30 (10 met too much resistance) to accommodate those who were always late because they couldn't get it together for 9. They couldn't (and can't) get it together for 9:30 either. My experience in the 3 ward building was the same people who were late at 9 were also late at 12 and 3 (it has nothing to do with start time) and I vigorously asserted that opinion to no avail, but since the kids were older (teens) it had less effect on us.
Nowadays as a retired guy (and just empty nesters to begin with) 9:30 is fine (9 would work too). I wouldn't want to go later than 10. My biggest issue is dragging DW away (and that's more literal than you probably think).
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There was a time when my jazz band was hired to perform at a dinner for a congregation where the pastors spoke about the need to donate for a new building. They had purchased property, and wanted the building built. I felt like I was in an LDS Ward when the pastors framed the whole thing as God's will. That God had inspired them to search for the property, that it was miraculous the way the deal came together, and the price paid for the property.
My conclusion is that many churches resort to calling something God's will if it means they will get what they want. It's so easy to do that. Governments have claimed that God is on their side in wars, that their cause is God-supported etcetera. (Napoleon seemed to know the false ease with which people do this, saying cynically that "God favors the side with the heaviest artillery").
My conclusion is that many churches resort to calling something God's will if it means they will get what they want. It's so easy to do that. Governments have claimed that God is on their side in wars, that their cause is God-supported etcetera. (Napoleon seemed to know the false ease with which people do this, saying cynically that "God favors the side with the heaviest artillery").
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"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."
A man asked Jesus "do all roads lead to you?" Jesus responds,”most roads don’t lead anywhere, but I will travel any road to find you.” Adapted from The Shack, William Young
"The wise man has the power" -- adapted from What A Fool Believes -- The Doobie Brothers