dande48 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2018, 08:47Here's the thing. The Church's STATED reason for the string of recent changes, I strongly believe, is VERY different from the actual reasons. Their stated reasons don't hold up to much scrutiny, but they are are much for easy for the more faithful members to accept. They are appealing to those members who actually loved and looked forward to the pagents. If the reason wasn't "revelation and families", but rather "finances, distancing ourselves from our distasteful history, increasing Church attendance, not recruiting enough members", etc, a lot of faithful members would be outraged.
There was an interesting quote in an article from the Mormon Newsroom:dande48 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2018, 07:17I know it does (or at least, we're told it does), BUT I have the feeling there is a strong obligation most of the Q12 have to "follow the prophet". With official declarations and changes in policy, it's usually signed on by the prophet, or the prophet and his two counselors. They are not a council of equals. If an apostle disagrees with the prophet (as has happened), it defaults to the prophet.
Just like with our sustaining vote, we can choose to vote against, but there's an expectation that any dissenting votes are the fault of the individual and not the leadership. We're expected to learn to accept the leader's decision, in spite of our reservations, and if we cannot do that, we get into trouble. It's the freedom of "getting to do what I tell you to do."
https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/ ... l-ministry
IMO it lends some credence to the idea that Nelson felt very strongly about the name of the church in 1990 but GBH stated openly that saying "Mormon" wasn't a big deal in the very next conference so Nelson sat, waited, and bided his time. It would also explain the recent revelations/changes that have come since Nelson became prophet. Things that Nelson has been meaning to do for some time but couldn't until he became prophet.I have seen him changing in the last ten months,” said Sister Nelson. “It is as though he's been unleashed. He's free to finally do what he came to earth to do. … And also, he's free to follow through with things he's been concerned about but could never do. Now that he's president of [the Church], he can do those things.
Not necessary for second coming: pageants.“He's not afraid to do something different,” said the prophet’s wife. “If we're really preparing the Church and the world for the Second Coming of the Savior, he is sincere about that. He doesn't want us spending money, time, energy on anything that isn't really focused on that. It's pretty stunning.”
I guess it makes sense. Isn't this how we teach presiding? People get an input but ultimately the person that presides gets the final say.