My brother-in law (the one who wrote the article discussed here about monoculture and diversity) wrote an article about pornography that is getting broad discussion. It is called "The Naked People on Your iPod".
It might be the best thing on this topic I have read, ever - certainly from a Mormon author.
https://medium.com/@ungewissen/the-nake ... 70a27fdb59
A Terrific Article about Pornography
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A Terrific Article about Pornography
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Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
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Good article. Thank you for sharing it.
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Hmmm. I think that subject is what we call "click bait."
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Good article. I liked the part about our being told that looking at porn dooms us to a life of addiction and loneliness. Back in my day it was smoking a cigarette, drinking, or masturbation. Kids tried them and took note that they didn't die on the spot or develop same gender attraction. Lesson learned.
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Not sure I agree about smoking. I know plenty of people who started in high school, and can't quit decades later.GBSmith wrote:Good article. I liked the part about our being told that looking at porn dooms us to a life of addiction and loneliness. Back in my day it was smoking a cigarette, drinking, or masturbation. Kids tried them and took note that they didn't die on the spot or develop same gender attraction. Lesson learned.
You can add cannabis to that list too.
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1ST PRES 1978 "[LDS] believe...there is truth in many religions and philosophies...good and great religious leaders... have raised the spiritual, moral, and ethical awareness of their people. When we speak of The [LDS] as the only true church...it is...authorized to administer the ordinances...by Jesus Christ... we do not mean... it is the only teacher of truth."
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Good article -- lots of clear, logical reasoning here.
I would like to ask a question. Assume you have a heterosexual man or a woman, who in spite of trying very hard to find a suitable marriage partner, finds themselves unmarried and alone -- from their young adulthood, and through their entire lives. They have the same powerful sexual drives as any person, yet have no way of seeing those drives reduced through normal sexual means given their situation, which is no fault of their own.
What alternatives, other than pornography and masturbation, does this person have to satisfy those drives?
[Which, incidentally, I heard many people wish could be erased from their physiology and psychology if it were feasible. This is due to the unprovoked torment these drives cause when there is no "moral" means of expression available to them???]
I would like to ask a question. Assume you have a heterosexual man or a woman, who in spite of trying very hard to find a suitable marriage partner, finds themselves unmarried and alone -- from their young adulthood, and through their entire lives. They have the same powerful sexual drives as any person, yet have no way of seeing those drives reduced through normal sexual means given their situation, which is no fault of their own.
What alternatives, other than pornography and masturbation, does this person have to satisfy those drives?
[Which, incidentally, I heard many people wish could be erased from their physiology and psychology if it were feasible. This is due to the unprovoked torment these drives cause when there is no "moral" means of expression available to them???]
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"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."
A man asked Jesus "do all roads lead to you?" Jesus responds,”most roads don’t lead anywhere, but I will travel any road to find you.” Adapted from The Shack, William Young
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The key word is "moral". When any experience or expression of sexual pleasure outside of marriage is deemed immoral it means that everything related to sexuality has to be controlled. It leads to Calvin's doctrine of the total depravity of man and the idea that the flesh has to be controlled, contained and mortified. To me the bounds the Lord has set is marriage but for the unmarried denying those needs brings neither thanks nor blessings and satisfying them with masturbation and erotica is not sin, IMHO.SilentDawning wrote:Good article -- lots of clear, logical reasoning here.
I would like to ask a question. Assume you have a heterosexual man or a woman, who in spite of trying very hard to find a suitable marriage partner, finds themselves unmarried and alone -- from their young adulthood, and through their entire lives. They have the same powerful sexual drives as any person, yet have no way of seeing those drives reduced through normal sexual means given their situation, which is no fault of their own.
What alternatives, other than pornography and masturbation, does this person have to satisfy those drives?
[Which, incidentally, I heard many people wish could be erased from their physiology and psychology if it were feasible. This is due to the unprovoked torment these drives cause when there is no "moral" means of expression available to them???]
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Intense internal pressure generally leads to explosion, no matter the nature of the pressure.
So, what GB said.
So, what GB said.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)
Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
A Terrific Article about Pornography
Well put GB. I don't view sexual practices outside of marriage a sin either. That is, not against the Lord. I view them as a sin against my spouse if she is not accepting of them. And a sin against myself if I am letting it interfere with my health, career or relationships.
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And what Ray Degraw said too.Intense internal pressure generally leads to explosion, no matter the nature of the pressure.
So, what GB said
A couple months ago, a single LDS friend confided to me that she had gone to the bishop and confessed her sin of mastrubation. Her temple recommend was taken over this. That just seemed so wrong to me. She felt shamed and made to feel less worthy over something that seemed so insignificant. I'm not sure why these topics are even asked about within the framework of religion.
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