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Great Kirby column

Post by DarkJedi » 11 Jul 2014, 09:51

I am a Robert Kirby fan and enjoy his wit. I particularly like his most recent column: ... n.html.csp

It is food for thought - my faith has caused me pain, and such pain was a part of my faith crisis. This is one I think everybody should read.
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Once there was a gentile...who came before Hillel. He said "Convert me on the condition that you teach me the whole Torah while I stand on one foot." Hillel converted him, saying: That which is despicable to you, do not do to your fellow, this is the whole Torah, and the rest is commentary, go and learn it."

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Post by SunbeltRed » 11 Jul 2014, 10:34



His issue is one of my biggest issues. It's the thing that I just don't get about Mormonism, well I get it I just don't agree with it. I have made mention to this many times in this forum, but I just can't believe that a loving Heavenly Father would want to divide families like that, IMHO. It doesn't make any sense to me and I can't believe He would want our belief to take precedent to treating our family and others with charity and love. IMO, His love and power to save is more expansive than we can understand.

I enjoyed the way Kirby approached the topic. Thanks for posting!

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Post by mom3 » 11 Jul 2014, 17:17

Love this. :thumbup:

My husbands first words this morning were, "Kirby hit it out of the park today." We have a printed copy hanging on our refridgerator. We are going to add it to our growing binder of new essays, pro-big tent quotes and conference talks. Piece of genius.
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Post by cwald » 11 Jul 2014, 23:09

I linked it to Facebook. That is significant.

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Post by Old-Timer » 12 Jul 2014, 00:09

Love him - and this is one of his best.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

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Post by hawkgrrrl » 12 Jul 2014, 10:07

I too linked to it on Facebook. Best line of all:
"Maybe you’ve decided to grudgingly accept this "lesser" Buddy for who he is now out of the goodness of your heart; that if you can’t love him the way your faith mandates, you can at least tolerantly pity him in a Christ-like way. If so, consider the very real possibility that you’re an idiot."

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