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Baptism for the dead/priesthood?

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 06:29
by Bear
Hi. Quick question:
Our boy would like to attend baptism for the dead. He is 12 now, but we have told the bishop that we would like for him to wait till he’s 16 to get the aronic priesthood.

The bishop says my son can’t attend baptism because he doesn’t hold the priesthood.
Is that true? My memory is that you just need a temple recommend to be baptized and not hold any priesthood. Could anyone point me to the official rules about this?

Thanks :)

Re: Baptism for the dead/priesthood?

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 07:00
by nibbler
Bear wrote:
14 Nov 2021, 06:29
The bishop says my son can’t attend baptism because he doesn’t hold the priesthood.
Is that true?
Yes, that's true. The official handbook (emphasis added):
Handbook 26.4.1 wrote:Limited-use recommends are issued to unendowed members as follows:
  • For members ages 11 and older to be baptized and confirmed for the dead. (Young women and ordained young men are eligible for a limited-use recommend beginning in January of the year they turn 12.)
(Note: The next two references are dated. They don't account for the update to newer policies that allow for 11 year olds to hold the AP under certain conditions)

https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... e-baptisms
How do I get a limited-use recommend?
You must be age 12 or older and be a worthy member of the Church. Men must receive the Aaronic Priesthood, which can normally be done within a week of their baptism.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ore-you-go
Who can be baptized for the dead?
Any member of the Church who is at least 12 years old may be baptized for the dead. Young men must hold the priesthood. Most importantly, everyone who enters the house of the Lord must be worthy. You and your bishop or one of his counselors will determine your worthiness in an interview.
It's silly considering young women of the same age can do baptisms for the dead with no priesthood. I think the policy only exists to ensure that young men are following the program that's laid out for them.

Re: Baptism for the dead/priesthood?

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 07:33
by Bear
Weird and silly. But it is what it is:)
Thanks

Re: Baptism for the dead/priesthood?

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 13:27
by DarkJedi
Agreed it's silly and unfair in that it doesn't apply equally to everyone. I went through some similar things with my own kids. Based on my own experience, your son will survive and be just fine (no worse for the wear). However you should be prepared for some for some hand wringing and "heart to heart" type talks with otherwise well meaning leaders (leadership roulette does play a role in that but there's also a variety of leaders involved).

Re: Baptism for the dead/priesthood?

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 14:14
by Roy
As part of this, it is important to remember that the "priesthood ban" restricting men of African descent also restricted them from the temple.

Re: Baptism for the dead/priesthood?

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 15:22
by DarkJedi
Roy wrote:
14 Nov 2021, 14:14
As part of this, it is important to remember that the "priesthood ban" restricting men of African descent also restricted them from the temple.
I don't want to derail here, but in the case of the priesthood ban women of African descent were also not permitted to go to the temple.

Re: Baptism for the dead/priesthood?

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 15:32
by Roy
Yes, thank you for the clarification.