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Roy
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Location of Eden

Post by Roy » 15 Dec 2021, 12:48

I recently came across some clues as to the probable location of the Garden of Eden.
Genesis 2:10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin[d] and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.[e] 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Ashur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.
Underlining mine.

I suppose that individuals that take literally the claim that the Garden of Eden was located on the American continent have already overcome significant hurdles to that belief.

This is just another one that makes me scratch my head. I suppose making bold claims comes with the territory of being a prophet and setting up a new religion.
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Re: Location of Eden

Post by Arrakeen » 15 Dec 2021, 16:41

As strange as it is, it doesn’t seem to be unique to our church either.

I was curious so I looked this up, and it seems several places have been claimed to be the location of the Garden of Eden including Bedford, England and Bristol, Florida.

I guess some people like to feel special about having the Garden of Eden in their backyard.

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Re: Location of Eden

Post by Old-Timer » 17 Jan 2022, 07:16

I see the story as mythological and am fine with the concept of multiple Edens, especially since Adam can be interpreted as “man” and Eve as “mother” or “beginning”. In that light, any place that marks the beginning of something special that begins a legacy can be an Eden.
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Re: Location of Eden

Post by latterdaytemplar » 01 Feb 2022, 11:05

It is possible that the Tigris and the Euphrates known today were named after the ones listed in Genesis.

On the other hand, the account of the Creation in Genesis reflects a flat-earth position, which most of us know is incorrect. Moses may well have written that account insofar as his understanding of it reached, and it may have been reliant on incorrect views of other Hebrews from whom he learned after his time as Egyptian royalty.

Given that Moses's understanding of world geography as reflected in the Creation account contradicts what we know now, I think that this also leaves room for his understanding of today's Tigris and Euphrates rivers correlating with Eden to be incorrect as well.
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Re: Location of Eden

Post by Roy » 01 Feb 2022, 14:25

Thanks for chiming in and adding the link about the flat earth theory. Fascinating! This year's study of the old testament is providing new opportunities for my wife and I to re-examine what we thought we knew about these scriptures vs. what they actually say vs. how some other groups may read them.
"It is not so much the pain and suffering of life which crushes the individual as it is its meaninglessness and hopelessness." C. A. Elwood

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"I struggle now with establishing my faith that God may always be there, but may not always need to intervene" Heber13

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