Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by GodisLove » 29 Dec 2013, 00:47

The missionaries are using "Preach My Gospel" in our area and I believe in all areas. In a recent calling I ended up going on splits (so strange story, anyway)that is what they were using.

Our area also has a ward quota that so many discussions are to be taught in homes. It doesn't matter if the discussion is taught to a member or non. With the recent increase in missionaries they are trying to keep the kids busy. I would put them to work, but so far they have been out with wards every night. I have a feeling that they will burn out the inactives in the area. In our ward there is only about 10 families in a ward of 150 families who are inactive.

Our ward is asked to teach 4 discussions a week with the missionaries. Our crazy leadership has added more with the ward missionaries. It is such a mess. I wish we had Mackay as our WML. The whole pressure shepherding did me in and I couldn't take it anymore. They "know" that because they have been asked to do this, it is a worthy goal that can be accomplished. They haven't noticed that they are ticking people off left and right, even regular attenders.

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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by Curt Sunshine » 29 Dec 2013, 00:50

At the following link, go to the section called "What Do I Study and Teach?" The missionary lessons are the first five links in that section, finishing with "Laws and Ordinances".

https://www.lds.org/manual/preach-my-go ... e?lang=eng
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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by SilentDawning » 29 Dec 2013, 07:33

You have to decide what you want for your kids to begin with. If you want them to believe in the gospel as traditionally taught, then let the missionaries teach the lessons. They might ask you to bear your testimony. Have something prepared that focuses on what you DO believe, even if it i's simply in the brotherhood of mankind or having a positive attitude. Be nice to the missionaries, let them go home and count they had a discussion. Try to find out their motives for being there - is it to prepare your child or baptism?
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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by Cadence » 29 Dec 2013, 07:38

I like missionaries. I like them to come into my house. We should not be fearful of what they may say or do. They are really just 18 year ignorant kids doing what they think is right. I have found it is so easy to deflect their questions without appearing antagonistic. I just use logic on them.

So feed them, ask them where they are from. Get them to talk about themselves as much as possible and not about you.
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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by cwald » 29 Dec 2013, 12:40

Cadence wrote:I like missionaries. I like them to come into my house. We should not be fearful of what they may say or do. They are really just 18 year ignorant kids doing what they think is right. I have found it is so easy to deflect their questions without appearing antagonistic. I just use logic on them.

So feed them, ask them where they are from. Get them to talk about themselves as much as possible and not about you.
I really like this. +1.


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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by DarkJedi » 29 Dec 2013, 15:08

Cadence wrote:I like missionaries. I like them to come into my house. We should not be fearful of what they may say or do. They are really just 18 year ignorant kids doing what they think is right. I have found it is so easy to deflect their questions without appearing antagonistic. I just use logic on them.

So feed them, ask them where they are from. Get them to talk about themselves as much as possible and not about you.
That's pretty much the way it works at my house. The sisters stop by when tracting/teaching in our area and they're always made welcome, unless I'm here by myself of course. Both the sisters and elders get invited over for dinner and as Cadence says, it's pretty easy to direct the conversation in the right direction. Our missionaries tend to stick pretty close to the one hour rule and with dinner there's not lots of of time for the unexpected to happen. They usually want to leave with a "spiritual thought" which always consists of reading a benign scripture and perhaps a testimony. They have never seemed to direct these at me and I have never been offended or put off by these.
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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by Daeruin » 29 Dec 2013, 15:45

I'm with ya'll. We have had the missionaries over for dinner a few times as well since we moved into this new ward. I work from home, so that makes it easier to schedule a time when both me and my wife can be here, meaning we get asked a lot. It works pretty much as DarkJedi described. It's never been a problem or anything. I enjoy helping them out, especially knowing how nice it was to get dinners when I was out.

My only concern this time is to be prepared to answer whatever questions they may pose since they'll be here specifically to teach the first discussion. Like I mentioned before, I don't think well on my feet.
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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by Curt Sunshine » 29 Dec 2013, 17:17

I don't think well on my feet.


Then make sure you are sitting. :D
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Post by Roy » 29 Dec 2013, 17:21

I had asked the sisters to come over and teach the discussions to DD. I asked that they visit about once a month for 6 months.

In all I think they had 4 visits in all. I could tell that they were pretty much running out of the cool object lessons for 8 year olds anyway.

I wanted DD to have a basic idea of what the church teaches and I wanted her to see some good female role models.

When I mentioned it to bishop, he said that he was ok with the missionaries teaching but he also hoped we would discuss baptism subjects in FHE.

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Re: Missionaries coming over - survival tips?

Post by SamBee » 04 Jan 2014, 10:48

cwald wrote:Yes.

My advice, regardless of what happens, be nice.

Sometimes it sucks being a missionary...they're just kids.

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Don't be scared of them either. I expect you know that they report back, but they can't force you or your children to do anything.
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