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by Curt Sunshine
08 Sep 2020, 14:51
Forum: Book & Media Reviews
Topic: I found this song & video interesting
Replies: 4
Views: 1423

Re: I found this song & video interesting

Thanks for sharing this.
by Curt Sunshine
31 Aug 2020, 06:22
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Metrics and Agency
Replies: 19
Views: 1510

Re: Metrics and Agency

Fwiw, Preach My Gospel says (or at least said) the exact same thing conceptually, at least. I can't remember if it addressed baptism goals, specifically.
by Curt Sunshine
25 Aug 2020, 15:59
Forum: Support
Topic: Online Seminary
Replies: 16
Views: 2387

Re: Online Seminary

What bothers me the most is that the online option glaringly favors higher social-economic families. It puts those already in a higher risk group most at risk. Frankly, I probably would point that out to my leaders - but I have the social capital to do it with at least a chance of them listening. Th...
by Curt Sunshine
25 Aug 2020, 15:50
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Regarding Tests of Loyalty
Replies: 32
Views: 2980

Re: Regarding Tests of Loyalty

Fwiw, I like the failed test interpretation mostly because I agree with On Own Now's appreciation fornit as a redemption tale. I don't believe it literally happened, so I am free to treat it a multi-faceted morality tale - which makes it much more powerful for me. I love the concept of "likening (an...
by Curt Sunshine
25 Aug 2020, 05:43
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: The Quest for Perfection
Replies: 8
Views: 1375

Re: The Quest for Perfection

I like the following rewording, which is entirely consistent with the original meaning:
"In this manner (living according to the rest of Chapter 5), become like your Father in Heaven: complete, whole, and fully developed."
by Curt Sunshine
15 Aug 2020, 14:46
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Regarding Tests of Loyalty
Replies: 32
Views: 2980

Re: Regarding Tests of Loyalty

I am bumping up this post due to its inclusion of an extensive discussion about Nephi killing Laban - and because I said I would in another current post. :D
by Curt Sunshine
15 Aug 2020, 14:28
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Would you ever intentionally lie?
Replies: 11
Views: 1248

Re: Would you ever intentionally lie?

We all know that He said it is better that one man perish (through murdering Laban to get the plates of brass) than an entire nation perish in unbelief. Just a personal and administrative edit: We all know that the Book of Mormon says Nephi believed God would justify killing Laban to keep his futur...
by Curt Sunshine
14 Aug 2020, 17:08
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Would you ever intentionally lie?
Replies: 11
Views: 1248

Re: Would you ever intentionally lie?

The command isn't, "Thou shalt not lie." It is, as you said, "Thou shalt not bear false witness." The difference is significant and important. Changing the actual commandment does serious damage to it. In ancient times, it was what we now term "committing perjury" (knowingly lying about what we have...
by Curt Sunshine
14 Aug 2020, 16:56
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Now I'm really confused
Replies: 6
Views: 795

Re: Now I'm really confused

I have stopped trying to understand some things, as much as general understanding is extremely important to me. I have started accepting whatever is - and attributing the unknowable but desired to God. I don't do so out of what I would call knowledge or certainty; I do so purely out of hope. It is w...
by Curt Sunshine
14 Aug 2020, 16:50
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Leadership seems anti-mask - Church guidance isn't anti-mask at all
Replies: 16
Views: 1253

Re: Leadership seems anti-mask - Church guidance isn't anti-mask at all

Due to my job, I am required to wear a mask in all situations with any heightened risks - everywhere, not just at work. My age also puts me in the second-third tier risk category (depending on the source). Thus, I am not attending church in person until every restriction is in place - at least - and...