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by kate5
31 Oct 2017, 12:51
Forum: Support
Topic: This article broke my shelf
Replies: 30
Views: 3555

Re: This article broke my shelf

Roy, thank you so much for your reply. This has been weighing on my mind for months now. I very much agree about throwing around inflammatory words so that the original word loses its powerful meaning. However, I still feel like the church can be abusive and I am not just talking about the "one true...
by kate5
31 Oct 2017, 09:42
Forum: Support
Topic: This article broke my shelf
Replies: 30
Views: 3555

This article broke my shelf

I don't blame the church for my depression and anxiety problems however when I read an article such as this about spiritual abuse, I realize that the church has been a contributing factor. At the very least, it doesn't provide me with any help or comfort. There are many other articles and books that...
by kate5
03 Jul 2017, 08:08
Forum: Support
Topic: I Resigned and I'm Getting Divorced
Replies: 12
Views: 1931

Re: I Resigned and I'm Getting Divorced

I just wanted to say I'm really sorry you are going through this. I hope you are okay.
by kate5
12 Jun 2017, 22:19
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why the Church abuses
Replies: 42
Views: 4741

Re: Why the Church abuses

I really have enjoyed this thread, thank you for starting it Reuben. I have been mentally out since I read a few books on spiritual abuse. I always just fell in line my whole life. When I looked at the way members are treated from the outside looking in, it just seems so manipulative. The "one true ...
by kate5
27 Apr 2017, 13:44
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Don't EVER do this!!!!
Replies: 65
Views: 5608

Re: Don't EVER do this!!!!

My short version is that sustain means: they aren't good enough to be a prophet, but with my help... :lol: This is one thing that I really wish was true of my experience with the church. I really feel that the church culture was that we were following all of these steps as requirements to earn God'...
by kate5
27 Apr 2017, 13:38
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Don't EVER do this!!!!
Replies: 65
Views: 5608

Re: Don't EVER do this!!!!

Thank you Dark Jedi for those threads. I have skimmed through both of them and I will read them more thoroughly tonight. I appreciate the more nuanced view of the temple recommend questions and what it means to sustain a leader. As much as I want to believe how "enlightened" I have become, I really ...
by kate5
27 Apr 2017, 12:11
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Don't EVER do this!!!!
Replies: 65
Views: 5608

Re: Don't EVER do this!!!!

I don't believe in polygamy. Not everybody knows that because I don't wear a lapel pin that says so. If the subject comes up and I feel I'm in safe company I'll say so. In "public" I make a joke of it. ("One wife is plenty for me!") My SP does know I don't believe in polygamy. I'm not sure he does ...
by kate5
27 Apr 2017, 11:22
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Don't EVER do this!!!!
Replies: 65
Views: 5608

Re: Don't EVER do this!!!!

Thank you Heber for your thoughtful reply and to everyone else who is contributing on this thread. The obedience subject is such a sore spot to me that now when I hear the word I immediately don't want to obey. (childish, I know) I want to hear a message that inspires me to obey not demands or stron...
by kate5
26 Apr 2017, 17:46
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Don't EVER do this!!!!
Replies: 65
Views: 5608

Re: Don't EVER do this!!!!

Interesting situation. I believe that the church wants fully informed obedience (as opposed to blind obedience). They want your personal revelation line of authority to confirm and support what is said by the priesthood line of authority. Sometimes it is suggested that the two will never be in conf...
by kate5
26 Apr 2017, 15:32
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Don't EVER do this!!!!
Replies: 65
Views: 5608

Re: Don't EVER do this!!!!

Heber, I appreciate your comments but here is a quote I found. "Then President Lee added a warning when he went on to say that we may not always like what comes from the authority of the Church, because it may conflict with our personal views or interfere with some of our social life. However, if we...