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Interesting comments. Let me ask a question. At the risk of violating Godwin's Law, is there ever a time it is okay to "criticize" the organization or the leaders of an organization? Example, is it okay to criticize ISIS and it's leaders? Is it okay to criticizes Warren Jeffs and the Fundamentalists...

I understand the "volunteer" comment. I am and have always been much more lenient when it comes to local leaders than the people at LDS, inc. which of course is where this thread originated. ...DHO is NOT a church volunteer. He is making a lot of money in his current position.

Thanks Ann for the comments. You have been here much longer than I have cwald. Nevertheless, as far as I can see this site has never been about criticism of church leaders themselves. I think I regularly see respectful criticism of church policy and almost all of us have some policies and traditions...

Two important things didn't happen at GC - #1 - The Proclamation on the Family - WAS NOT canonized as scripture. :clap: #2 - The entire conference was not focused on The Proclamation or Family Home Evening. :clap: In these two things I rejoice. Well, mom3, I'm not sure I totally agree with your #2....

Cool idea.

I'm not satisfied with "baby steps" any longer. The church simply need to do the right thing and let the consequences follow. I think we need more people who feel this way to calmly and sincerely suggest - in public, even if only on the internet - that we can do better. Carter: Yeah. The problem is...

Peace.

I'm not satisfied with "baby steps" any longer. The church simply need to do the right thing and let the consequences follow.

Rather than worry about what makes the stream flow, simply become the water.

Peace.