Well, I guess really think about the question for a minute.
All things being as they are, does historicity matter? As in, if the Book of Mormon turns out to not be historical, would that being so have a direct effect on your salvation?
To me, the answer is definitively no.
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- 13 Oct 2014, 19:04
- Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
- Topic: Does historicity matter?
- Replies: 72
- Views: 6875
- 12 Sep 2014, 22:15
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Denver Snuffer Update
- Replies: 34
- Views: 4671
Re: Denver Snuffer Update
I'm pretty sure Denver actually said anyone baptized under authority gained AFTER the April 2014 LDS GC must be re-baptized, not everyone. That's when he claims authority was wrested from the church. That being said, I'd love to hear specifically in what manner Denver believes he was called to be a ...
- 04 Aug 2014, 15:40
- Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
- Topic: Unconditional Love of God in a performance-based religion
- Replies: 48
- Views: 6210
Re: Unconditional Love of God in a performance-based religio
Just because God loves you unconditionally does not mean he will or should reward you unconditionally. If a parent loved his two children the same but one of those children frequently disobeyed him, that parent would not give both children the same reward, for that would be unfair. There is no conf...
- 04 Aug 2014, 15:32
- Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
- Topic: Perfection
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1891
Re: Perfection
From a book I'm reading: In Luther's translation of the Bible, the word usually rendered perfect ( teleioi ) is rendered as vollkommen . That is, complete , whole , entire . The Atonement is not a backup plan in case we fall short in the process (as we inevitably will); it is the ordained means wher...
- 04 Aug 2014, 15:19
- Forum: Support
- Topic: worthiness questions in calling interview
- Replies: 22
- Views: 3466
Re: worthiness questions in calling interview
If it is a stake-level calling, the Stake President is responsible to consult with the individual's bishop to determine worthiness prior to issuing a call. This is usually done through the ward's high council rep. That is how worthiness is determined, not through the meeting where the calling is ext...
- 16 Jul 2014, 07:36
- Forum: Support
- Topic: James Fowler's Stages of Faith
- Replies: 108
- Views: 54997
Re: James Fowler's Stages of Faith
I just read this entire thread as well. What a doozy, but so interesting and insightful. I had an epiphany of sorts over the last few weeks. I have felt better than I have since I started my "faith crisis." I didn't have words to describe what I was thinking or feeling, but when I read this thread t...
- 10 Jul 2014, 20:01
- Forum: Support
- Topic: "Here I Stand. God Help Me, I Can Do No Other."
- Replies: 7
- Views: 874
Re: "Here I Stand. God Help Me, I Can Do No Other."
The frustrating part comes where the rubber meets the road. If the brethren have been and continue today to be fallible, how do I know what teachings today are correct, and which ones are incorrect and will be changed, modifies, or corrected in 15 years? I don't NEED this certainty. I don't struggl...
- 10 Jun 2014, 17:49
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3030
Re: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
You brought up meeting with your bishop, that's good. Don't be too hard on the guy Thanks, DJ. My intentions are actually quite the opposite. I want people to know that it's precisely because I don't want to become a bitter ex-mormon that I'm taking these steps. I love the people in my ward. So muc...
- 10 Jun 2014, 17:02
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3030
Re: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
I think perhaps we're speaking past each other, or probably more accurately, I haven't been perfectly clear. I am very much willing to accept that the conclusions I come to are not absolute and don't represent the only way to view things. In fact, I don't have a conclusion as to what the pictures sh...
- 10 Jun 2014, 16:23
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3030
Re: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
Your situation (faith crisis / transition) is causing what you see, NOT what actually is happening in the pictures. This is where I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Are you saying that you DON'T see DOM's thumb over (or in between) the knuckles on JFK's hand?? I can understand someone saying they ...