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by Kipper
25 May 2018, 15:13
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Chosen People
Replies: 26
Views: 2476

Re: Chosen People

Conversely - my cringe moment with the Chosen People mantra runs along Tevya's line (Thank you Dande). In all of history, "The Chosen" person/people often suffer the most. I hate suffering. I don't do it well. I run from it when I can. When we sit in class and are pulling our invisible "I am Chosen...
by Kipper
25 May 2018, 12:19
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Chosen People
Replies: 26
Views: 2476

Re: Chosen People

Other than not really believing there are chosen people, the problem I have with us being said chosen people is that it so often leads to pridefulness among some of us. While not always explicitly stated (but it is sometimes explicitly stated) I often hear that we are better than our Christian brot...
by Kipper
24 May 2018, 18:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Chosen People
Replies: 26
Views: 2476

Chosen People

During GD last week it was mentioned that we were some of the chosen people which made me cringe a little, but then one upstanding fellow spoke up and exclaimed "...remember now, our missionaries are out there teaching that we are chosen people..." That made me pucker up in several different places....
by Kipper
01 Apr 2018, 10:56
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Sunday morning April 2018
Replies: 11
Views: 1108

Re: Sunday morning April 2018

My sidewalk has been cracked slowly but surely by church indoctrination. Oaks seems like a walking analogy machine. Maybe I should stop until I have something positive to contribute.
by Kipper
01 Apr 2018, 10:37
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Combining Elders and High Priests
Replies: 19
Views: 2595

Re: Combining Elders and High Priests

I am far less than enthusiastic about this. There seemed to be too much creative doctorin in EQ. But then maybe that why the combining. And I finally stopped hearing every othercomment begin with "when I was on my mission...". Maybe because I didn't serve and it's a repetitive reminder. Just my unpo...
by Kipper
13 Mar 2018, 13:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Therapeutic Moment
Replies: 5
Views: 715

Re: Therapeutic Moment

I just wanted to share. Have you ever had those plumb moments when you get to share your complete thoughts with someone who is a member, without risk of any consequences from the formal establishment? How did it go? I am not talking about anti-Mormon thoughts, but simply about face to face sharing ...
by Kipper
25 Feb 2018, 23:38
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What to Expect in This New Calling
Replies: 10
Views: 907

Re: What to Expect in This New Calling

I mentioned I was concerned about the time involved but was told it will all work out and I would have many blessings poured on me. Don't think I buy that any more, I've had plenty of blessings denied due to callings taking me away from my personnel time. DW and I had a bad experience where DW was ...
by Kipper
25 Feb 2018, 08:48
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What to Expect in This New Calling
Replies: 10
Views: 907

Re: What to Expect in This New Calling

The financial part is the biggest part IMO. It is better with online tithing these days, but there are still plenty of people who hand in the envelopes, and that needs to be counted, entered into the computer, and deposited each Sunday. It takes two to count (a bishopric member helps) and nowadays ...
by Kipper
24 Feb 2018, 21:09
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What to Expect in This New Calling
Replies: 10
Views: 907

Re: What to Expect in This New Calling

So, to answer your question, the clerk attends all the meetings the bishop attends, supervises the asst. clerks (and fills in as necessary, especially financial), and does whatever other meeting related stuff the bishop wants. The clerk is responsible for monthly reports (like financial) but good a...
by Kipper
24 Feb 2018, 21:05
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What to Expect in This New Calling
Replies: 10
Views: 907

Re: What to Expect in This New Calling

was told it will all work out and I would have many blessings poured on me. Don't think I buy that any more, I've had plenty of blessings denied due to callings taking me away from my personnel time. And I am also sure my father's life was decreased when he was bishop late in life in a really needy...