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by DevilsAdvocate
18 Jul 2017, 07:18
Forum: Support
Topic: 21 Tips Divorced Couples Suggestion for Better Marriage
Replies: 6
Views: 743

Re: 21 Tips Divorced Couples Suggestion for Better Marriage

To be honest I was skeptical after reading the title; to me it sounded almost like, "Secrets of achieving financial success from people that declared bankruptcy." I mean there are statistics that have been reported that 2nd and 3rd marriages are even more likely to end in divorce than first marrages...
by DevilsAdvocate
25 Jun 2017, 16:07
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The culture of marriage
Replies: 34
Views: 3043

Re: The culture of marriage

I have regular conversations with my daughter who is in Utah and BYU-P right now. I am amazed at how strong the "get married" culture is... it wouldn't surprise me if the average age of Mormons getting married is younger than the population at large. This is due to this strong marriage culture. Whe...
by DevilsAdvocate
25 Jun 2017, 15:57
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The culture of marriage
Replies: 34
Views: 3043

Re: The culture of marriage

My question: Is it bad to marry young? What is the downside if they find someone they are in love with and are willing to figure things out as they go along? By waiting longer...isn't someone just adding new variables to a situation, not really getting a more sure answer on who is going to be right...
by DevilsAdvocate
20 Jun 2017, 19:57
Forum: Support
Topic: The things I have told very few...
Replies: 6
Views: 990

Re: The things I have told very few...

To be honest I think experiences like yours are a lot more common in the Church than most members including the leaders want to admit, it's just that the Church likes to maintain this image of strict conformity and being separate and protected from "the world." So those that are completely honest ab...
by DevilsAdvocate
12 Jun 2017, 07:21
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why the Church abuses
Replies: 42
Views: 4591

Re: Why the Church abuses

Probably the worst sign is that the doctrines themselves help propagate abuse . They contribute to the warped value system that leads to abuse, and they also help justify abusive behavior. Examples:... Satan exists. This provides the most ready, isolating, divisive and wrong explanation for when me...
by DevilsAdvocate
10 Jun 2017, 16:16
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why the Church abuses
Replies: 42
Views: 4591

Re: Why the Church abuses

Good points; I would summarize the general attitude displayed by Church leaders, published lessons, etc. as, "We know what's best for you." Many in the Church will deny how abusive some of this is and don't really feel like victims of abuse because they have already bought into the premise that this...
by DevilsAdvocate
13 May 2017, 15:30
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: 59 Percent of Millennials Raised in a Church Have Dropped Out—And They’re Trying to Tell Us Why
Replies: 18
Views: 3877

Re: 59 Percent of Millennials Raised in a Church Have Dropped Out—And They’re Trying to Tell Us Why

I think that the church currently has a model where members must sacrifice for their own good in order to fit the church program. Members do not expect their church to bend to changing consumer trends and can be quite proud of this fact. Yes, this model appears to be similar to the model for Muslim...
by DevilsAdvocate
13 May 2017, 09:13
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: 59 Percent of Millennials Raised in a Church Have Dropped Out—And They’re Trying to Tell Us Why
Replies: 18
Views: 3877

Re: 59 Percent of Millennials Raised in a Church Have Dropped Out—And They’re Trying to Tell Us Why

However, as Ray has often pointed out, the LDS church often fares better at retaining its youth than many churches. This may be precisely because we have rejected the consumer driven model of church. When you are trying to attract parishioners based on how your church programs add value to their li...
by DevilsAdvocate
03 May 2017, 20:11
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Poll: What was your shelf-breaker?
Replies: 35
Views: 4665

Re: Poll: What was your shelf-breaker?

If I had to pick one category I would say contradictions between scientific and historical evidence and what the scriptures (especially LDS) say. For example, passages about "no death before the fall", a global flood, and the tower of Babel in LDS scriptures. I guess you could call it current doctri...
by DevilsAdvocate
23 Apr 2017, 10:06
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?
Replies: 47
Views: 5699

Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Just a thought, and I haven't flushed this out yet. But what if God isn't all powerful? What if there are certain laws he must abide by in his sphere and that includes that for some reason he can't just forgive everyone or make up a system by which somehow everyone gets to return to him. But by fol...