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by DevilsAdvocate
28 Apr 2010, 09:58
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: What is "pornography"? (Not a troll)
Replies: 100
Views: 5894

Re: What is "pornography"? (Not a troll)

...I make a distinction between porn and art. Not all nudity is porn. Take a walk through the great art galleries, or tell me the great artists of the Renaissance were peddlers of porn. I still don't believe there is really that much of a clear-cut difference between art and pornography. As far as ...
by DevilsAdvocate
27 Apr 2010, 13:15
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: What is "pornography"? (Not a troll)
Replies: 100
Views: 5894

Re: What is "pornography"? (Not a troll)

...Are all R rated/over 18 films with a sex scene in that category? Novels which contain the same? Are all films in this category out? This is one of the things I'm trying to work out just now. It does seem a bit harsh, especially considering the content of the Song of Solomon, which is still in th...
by DevilsAdvocate
27 Apr 2010, 10:00
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Could this WofW story be for real?
Replies: 95
Views: 6418

Re: Could this WofW story be for real?

...It is very very frustrating to me, because I think I understand the gospel pretty well, and I just have never been able to figure out how the WofW that I was taught fits into it. In fact, it doesn't. In my opinion, it is absolutely BS - at least the way that I was taught the WofW growing up "Kno...
by DevilsAdvocate
26 Apr 2010, 10:42
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Could this WofW story be for real?
Replies: 95
Views: 6418

Re: Could this WofW story be for real?

I agree with the comments that such behavior can seem Pharasaical (NIV version) 16"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. 17"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these ma...
by DevilsAdvocate
25 Apr 2010, 15:37
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Could this WofW story be for real?
Replies: 95
Views: 6418

Re: Could this WofW story be for real?

I personally don't dwell on the status change. It was a suggestion; now it's a temple requirement. OK. Got it. :twisted: I'm glad there are those who can just say that. It's just doesn't work for me. Actually, it chaps my hide. This "status change" which came during prohibition has evolved in "gosp...
by DevilsAdvocate
23 Apr 2010, 09:30
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Could this WofW story be for real?
Replies: 95
Views: 6418

Re: Could this WofW story be for real?

I would just drink American beer brands, most of them have no alcohol content anyway. (Joke) The WoW is pretty clear on tobacco and alcohol, but then again, it's not on tea or coffee (do they have to be hot?) I'm not so sure the WoW is really all that clear about alcohol as far as trying to claim t...
by DevilsAdvocate
22 Apr 2010, 09:14
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Could this WofW story be for real?
Replies: 95
Views: 6418

Re: Could this WofW story be for real?

...this kind of thing apparently DOES happen in the church in different parts of the world. :shock: The comments on the post turned me off immediately, which is why Im bringing it over here to get some input. Most of the comments were "this is a sin...this is terrible" or "I think beer stinks so wh...
by DevilsAdvocate
21 Apr 2010, 16:23
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Spiritual Gifts: Then and Now
Replies: 20
Views: 2410

Re: Spiritual Gifts: Then and Now

I know for a fact that spiritual experiences still happen because several people I know have had unusual experiences like this. I think there are many possible explanations for "spiritual experiences," one of them really a connection with the Divine (whatever that is)! Where I think many err is to ...
by DevilsAdvocate
21 Apr 2010, 16:17
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Spiritual Gifts: Then and Now
Replies: 20
Views: 2410

Re: Spiritual Gifts: Then and Now

One question I often ponder: What's the difference between a spiritual experience, specifically when a person has a gift to see spirits or have visions, and a psychotic event including hallucinations? Sure seeing spirits or visions one time only could just be a simple hallucination and if it appear...
by DevilsAdvocate
21 Apr 2010, 09:25
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Spiritual Gifts: Then and Now
Replies: 20
Views: 2410

Re: Spiritual Gifts: Then and Now

...it seems like the current version of the LDS Church has evolved to be more like the most conservative old-school orthodox churches that are more concerned with adherence to tradition and the written word than the experience of individual members. ...what happened to all these spiritual experienc...