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by Tom Haws
13 May 2011, 08:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Pure Motives for Paying Tithing
Replies: 32
Views: 2033

Re: Pure Motives for Paying Tithing

Tom, how does getting rid of the money for the sake of getting rid of the money produce happiness? Wouldn't getting rid of the money for the sake of self-actualization (being a selfless person) AND knowing your funds are being put to a productive use that is meaningful to you accomplish the same th...
by Tom Haws
13 May 2011, 05:27
Forum: Support
Topic: An ominous developement for Middle Way Mormons
Replies: 167
Views: 25086

Re: An ominous developement for Middle Way Mormons

... the rest of the world is out to keep us on the fringe and marginalized, in spite of our efforts. I think this is a dangerous and paranoid idea that comes from a part of us we ought to examine closely. I'm ruminating on your idea that you don't have to necessarily believe in the restoration to b...
by Tom Haws
13 May 2011, 05:19
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Pure Motives for Paying Tithing
Replies: 32
Views: 2033

Re: Pure Motives for Paying Tithing

...I believe in tithing. I absolutely would prefer that someone tithe for a good cause than that they not tithe at all - and I think someone who stops paying a tithe (or making some sort of significant, sacrificial donation) just because they no longer feel like supporting the LDS Church financiall...
by Tom Haws
13 May 2011, 05:07
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New plateau for Silentdawning
Replies: 11
Views: 1073

Re: New plateau for Silentdawning

My, are we older folks up early, George (though of course you are earlier and more "experienced" than I am)! At the rate SD is going, I am sure he will surpass me rapidly. I think I started here about three months after the forum began, so I'm a bit of a straggler.
by Tom Haws
13 May 2011, 05:03
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Polygamy and Brother Joseph's DNA
Replies: 29
Views: 2452

Re: Polygamy and Brother Joseph's DNA

I found some information on this yesterday. I may paste some of the direct quotes. Destroys the idea that JS was some kind of lecher and could even account for Emma's refusal to believe he practiced polygamy. Actually, the historian consensus is that Emma knew about polygamy, witnesses some of the w...
by Tom Haws
13 May 2011, 04:57
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New plateau for Silentdawning
Replies: 11
Views: 1073

Re: New plateau for Silentdawning

Very nice. :thumbup:
by Tom Haws
12 May 2011, 14:45
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Pure Motives for Paying Tithing
Replies: 32
Views: 2033

Re: Pure Motives for Paying Tithing

For me, the right motive, on one level, is simply to let go. Beyond that, we could probably list "pure motives" at several levels. I'll give it a first try: God demands it. He will bless you if you pay and curse you if you don't. Do it as a means of sacrifice to bring the blessings of heaven. Do it ...
by Tom Haws
12 May 2011, 14:33
Forum: Support
Topic: An ominous developement for Middle Way Mormons
Replies: 167
Views: 25086

Re: An ominous developement for Middle Way Mormons

Cwald and Jwald, maximum respect. Possibly if you back away from the church for a time you won't need the support of StayLDS. I hope you find nice spiritual upliftment and growth as "the gods" guide you. Maybe your LDS-ness can come later. You are okay.

With love,
Tom
by Tom Haws
11 May 2011, 19:52
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Polygamy and Brother Joseph's DNA
Replies: 29
Views: 2452

Re: Polygamy and Brother Joseph's DNA

You are excused from that part of the discussion, then, I guess. :D Regarding DNA tests, I accept them, and it seems to me that even if there is a DNA match on one or two possible JS polygamy offspring, it still is very scant to account for 30 +/- marriages. Shouldn't we see a handful of children at...
by Tom Haws
11 May 2011, 16:47
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Polygamy and Brother Joseph's DNA
Replies: 29
Views: 2452

Re: Polygamy and Brother Joseph's DNA

Abortion is a possibility, but birth control is less scandalous. Just to get everything on the table, we don't have to stick to the extremes, we can cover everything on the spectrum too. What were contemporary attitudes and practices on birth control? Any Nauvoo stuff about that? But where abortion ...