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by DarkJedi
17 Jun 2025, 09:33
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Help with a Sacrament Talk
Replies: 17
Views: 258

Re: Help with a Sacrament Talk

I'm glad it went well. Can You Hear the Music? is also a favorite talk of mine because it resonates with me.
by DarkJedi
12 Jun 2025, 09:53
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Upcoming fireside "welcoming all"
Replies: 9
Views: 154

Re: Upcoming fireside "welcoming all"

One thing that I often hear that I fear is detrimental to the discussion is when leaders focus on how we're all god's children. They typically frame it as something that supplants a LGBTQ+ identity rather than it being an identity in addition to a LGBTQ+ identity. I fully understand that leaders ar...
by DarkJedi
12 Jun 2025, 09:37
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Upcoming fireside "welcoming all"
Replies: 9
Views: 154

Re: Upcoming fireside "welcoming all"

I would add the additional concern that those who are facilitating these conversations may show up on the radar for those issuing church discipline. It is stake sanctioned, billed as a stake fireside, and sent out through the church system. Most of the panelists are known in the stake (having had p...
by DarkJedi
09 Jun 2025, 13:00
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Upcoming fireside "welcoming all"
Replies: 9
Views: 154

Re: Upcoming fireside "welcoming all"

I hope for that as well, Roy. I can be negative and pessimistic, and that shows in my post and reaction. I've been stewing on this for a few days which probably also doesn't help. I forgot to mention that I think it is interesting (and positive) that this is happening during Pride Month. And I also ...
by DarkJedi
09 Jun 2025, 10:16
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Upcoming fireside "welcoming all"
Replies: 9
Views: 154

Upcoming fireside "welcoming all"

Got an email about an upcoming stake fireside entitled "Building Zion by Welcoming All." Here is the text (times, places, and names redacted): Join us for a panel discussion about how we build Zion in our congregations. Christ's New Testament church was characterized by diversity. In our d...
by DarkJedi
07 Jun 2025, 09:16
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Help with a Sacrament Talk
Replies: 17
Views: 258

Re: Help with a Sacrament Talk

What is the covenant path? It is the one path that leads to the celestial kingdom of God. We embark upon the path at the gate of baptism and the "press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. The two great commandments to t...
by DarkJedi
05 Jun 2025, 13:15
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Help with a Sacrament Talk
Replies: 17
Views: 258

Re: Help with a Sacrament Talk

The powers that be decided to create a "best practices" timeline checklist because that works for their worldview (and doesn't work for a lot of other worldviews) and called it a "Covenant Path. That is the traditional LDS view and understanding of covenant path. You might take it in...
by DarkJedi
28 May 2025, 08:09
Forum: Book & Media Reviews
Topic: LDS Daily - 5 Crucial Questions
Replies: 8
Views: 364

Re: LDS Daily - 5 Crucial Questions

Before reading any of the responses my first reaction was what the responses say - all of this blames the individual leaving and puts no responsibility on other factors - the church itself (teachings/doctrine, etc.) or individuals in the church. While I think things like "being offended" a...
by DarkJedi
20 May 2025, 13:49
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 15 New Hymns for the Hymn Book
Replies: 11
Views: 2675

Re: 15 New Hymns for the Hymn Book

Yeah, despite making some progress on the grace front of late, the majority of the leadership (hence the membership) isn't there yet. Small steps. I think it's hard for people to look at something differently when they have been taught the same thing for decades and/or their whole lives I'm really n...
by DarkJedi
15 May 2025, 06:36
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Spiritual Challenges
Replies: 13
Views: 1614

Re: Spiritual Challenges

The reason I ask this is because when I joined the church, I thought if you stayed active, pray, read scriptures, paid your tithing, did missionary work, etc, etc. God would protect you & your family. If God didn't provide protection, God would give you answers & strength to continue. When ...