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I just reviewed through all the posts and wonder, what about the suicides, broken marriages, resignations, and according to a Mormon Stories podcast, excommunications for "apostasy" that occurred just a few weeks prior to the announcements? I agree with the opinion that this was not revelation but o...

If we all talk the same, and think the same, and walk the same...is that Zion or something else, ya know? It doesn't necessarily mean were correlated but that we've missed the point or as DJ pointed out, we've not done it right. I've had enough bad sacrament talks and EQ lessons that were just regu...

For me it's like a neighborhood bar. You want to go where everyone knows your name. The flip side of that analogy is that you're expected to take your turn tending it.

I think many people find a great deal in attending the temple for no other reason than the feeling they get in a beautiful place that's quiet and peaceful and filled with good decent people. It represents the devotion of people to family history and to their own families, a hope for their marriages,...

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17 Oct 2018, 14:16

If you are a literal believer, they are one in the same, but with a non-literal belief, it's hard to see a lot there to teach and encourage spiritual development that is not tied to obedience.

agreed

I'm interested as a master mason as to the reasons JS adopted and adapted the ritual. Was it to teach, add another level of charisma to ensure loyalty of his inner circle, further enforce secrecy to keep everything quiet about polygamy, introduce his ideas of sealing and family ties as regards salva...

Having it first has always given me the impression of just getting it over with so we can get on to more important things. But then most members wouldn't show up for the first 40 minutes of sacrament meeting! :lol: I think you'd be surprised. In the Episcopal church worship is divided into the litu...

My preference would be to have the Sacrament at the end, as the culminating event. Agreed. Every Christian church service that I've ever attended places the eucharist/sacrament at the end. Having it first has always given me the impression of just getting it over with so we can get on to more impor...

I'm not sure comparing JS to Jesus is a step up for him or a step down for the Savior, but I think it's a step too far. Why? Seriously, why? I chose my words VERY carefully. I was crystal clear in my comparison. It wasn't Joseph to Jesus. It was a statement about "all famous prophets". It was quali...

All of these contradictions are true: * Plagiarist vs original thinker. * Poor leader vs great leader. * Unfairly treated vs treating others unfairly. * His legacy stands vs his legacy is divided. * A builder of cities vs a breaker of homes. * A family man vs an adulterer. I guess if he didn't clai...