Come Follow Me - Pilot Best Practice

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Come Follow Me - Pilot Best Practice

Post by Rusty92 » 05 Jan 2019, 15:53

The general membership are starting the new curriculum come follow me this year, it was piloted in some stakes but why cant we be told how the pilot went, what was good, what didn't go so well? I don't get it!

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Re: Come Follow Me - Pilot Best Practice

Post by Curt Sunshine » 05 Jan 2019, 16:20

Because that wasn't the intent of the pilot.

What did and didn't work was meant to inform development, not to be published.
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Post by dande48 » 05 Jan 2019, 22:05

Rusty92 wrote:
05 Jan 2019, 15:53
The general membership are starting the new curriculum come follow me this year, it was piloted in some stakes but why cant we be told how the pilot went, what was good, what didn't go so well? I don't get it!
Why would we need or want to? It's outdated information. Anything "useful" they've learned has already been incorperated, or sent out as instruction.
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Re: Come Follow Me - Pilot Best Practice

Post by Rusty92 » 06 Jan 2019, 00:55

I realise that the finished product we have is the result of the pilot but it would of been useful to have had the practicalities of how it worked within the wards, i know we have to learn for ourselves but what is wrong with the concept of sharing best practice? the concept is used widely elsewhere why not in the church?

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Post by dande48 » 06 Jan 2019, 09:06

Rusty92 wrote:
06 Jan 2019, 00:55
i know we have to learn for ourselves but what is wrong with the concept of sharing best practice? the concept is used widely elsewhere why not in the church?
They've shared what they've found to be "best practice" in its current instructions and implementation (provided people actually follow it).
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Post by Roy » 06 Jan 2019, 10:13

The church has never been overly transparent about things in development. That is just not their MO.
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Post by nibbler » 06 Jan 2019, 13:58

A few videos were shown during SS today and one of them was a testimonial from people about the Come Follow Me program. I suspect that's another reason they do the pilot programs, so they can have testimonials ready on day one of the rollout.

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Post by mom3 » 06 Jan 2019, 14:51

Plus we are still in the pilot program.

38 years ago, when the new block program came into play, it had piloted in Utah and Idaho. It worked beautifully because the church members are the community in those areas. It was super smooth to cut out a bunch of mid week stuff and everyone be fine.

So out they rolled it. The New Revealed Plan.

Funny thing, out the Mission field, it wasn't so good. Especially for youth and kids. The loss of midweek connection with other "Mormon" kids was causing a huge loss. My mom was a Stake YW Pres. She and a batch of others from her area, wrote letters, went to Utah, and other church places and pled that midweek activities for youth come back. It took a good 2 years for the powers that be to see the wisdom of the complaint. Sure enough little by little midweek activities came back. (Between you and me, we went overboard) - but the same thing is going to happen here.

It already is. There are going to be a million tweaks.

My SP, said he gets emails every Friday with some new update or change. It's now clockwork.
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