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Re: I May Throw Up...

Post by hawkgrrrl » 12 Oct 2018, 16:40

To me, this is just further evidence of the infantile way these men see women. Do some women behave like children? Yes. So do some men. Do all women need to take a fast from social media to reduce negative feelings? Maybe. I regulate how I use social media all the time. It's called being a grown up.

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Post by SamBee » 12 Oct 2018, 19:08

hawkgrrrl wrote:
12 Oct 2018, 16:40
Maybe. I regulate how I use social media all the time. It's called being a grown up.
A lot of people (non-gender specific!) don't and social media can become antisocial for various reasons. As a lady who is, over 21 years old (sorry!), I can guess you remember a life without social media. As do I. Unfortunately, I do believe social media twists one's perception particularly if you are in the 12-20 bracket - it's having serious psychological effects on them and also making them unable to debate or accept those with differing opinions.
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Post by SilentDawning » 14 Oct 2018, 11:00

I don't get the point of the social media fast.
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Re: I May Throw Up...

Post by DarkJedi » 14 Oct 2018, 13:08

SilentDawning wrote:
14 Oct 2018, 11:00
I don't get the point of the social media fast.
It is essentially to "get our priorities straight" (my words). if we're not spending so much time on social media, we could spend it on doing other things like reading the BoM. And that brings me to a related point. Today was F&TM in our ward and there were several about doing as Pres. Nelson "inviting" (apparently read commanded by some people) members to read the BoM before the end of the year. After the first couple I was thinking to myself "I don't remember him saying that." I was texting during the meeting (as I often am) and texted that out to the guy I was texting with (who was in the same room). His reply was "That's because he said in women's session." So what is it with hounding the women? Social media fast? Read the BoM before the end of the year? Why's he picking on the women? (I do know he "invited" the youth to do the same thing earlier, and since he has only invited youth - which I am not - and women, I believe I am still exempt.)
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Re: I May Throw Up...

Post by SamBee » 14 Oct 2018, 13:40

SilentDawning wrote:
14 Oct 2018, 11:00
I don't get the point of the social media fast.
Because it is a genuine problem in our society. We don't look up from our phones often enough, and it is no substitute for real social interaction. It's also destroying our attention spans.

Where I disagree is with the fact that it has been ordered and women only.

I know from personal experience that this is actually a good thing to do, and not just from a religious POV.
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Post by Reuben » 14 Oct 2018, 18:02

DarkJedi wrote:
14 Oct 2018, 13:08
Today was F&TM in our ward and there were several about doing as Pres. Nelson "inviting" (apparently read commanded by some people) members to read the BoM before the end of the year. After the first couple I was thinking to myself "I don't remember him saying that." I was texting during the meeting (as I often am) and texted that out to the guy I was texting with (who was in the same room). His reply was "That's because he said in women's session." So what is it with hounding the women? Social media fast? Read the BoM before the end of the year? Why's he picking on the women? (I do know he "invited" the youth to do the same thing earlier, and since he has only invited youth - which I am not - and women, I believe I am still exempt.)
I wonder if he'll hound the men in six months. It's possible President Nelson is an equal-opportunity hounder who happens to be constrained by an alternating schedule.
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Re: I May Throw Up...

Post by DarkJedi » 15 Oct 2018, 04:56

Reuben wrote:
14 Oct 2018, 18:02
DarkJedi wrote:
14 Oct 2018, 13:08
Today was F&TM in our ward and there were several about doing as Pres. Nelson "inviting" (apparently read commanded by some people) members to read the BoM before the end of the year. After the first couple I was thinking to myself "I don't remember him saying that." I was texting during the meeting (as I often am) and texted that out to the guy I was texting with (who was in the same room). His reply was "That's because he said in women's session." So what is it with hounding the women? Social media fast? Read the BoM before the end of the year? Why's he picking on the women? (I do know he "invited" the youth to do the same thing earlier, and since he has only invited youth - which I am not - and women, I believe I am still exempt.)
I wonder if he'll hound the men in six months. It's possible President Nelson is an equal-opportunity hounder who happens to be constrained by an alternating schedule.
Why didn't he just do it in one of the general sessions?
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Re: I May Throw Up...

Post by dande48 » 15 Oct 2018, 07:11

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DarkJedi wrote:
15 Oct 2018, 04:56
Why didn't he just do it in one of the general sessions?
I'd hedge my bets he was just writing his talk for the Women's session, the idea popped into his head, thought it'd be helpful, considered it revelation, and included it in his talk. I don't think he had anything but the best of intentions, and seriously doubt he was being deliberately sexist. I don't agree with him on many things, but he has a good heart.

The biggest difference between the men and women's sessions, in my opinion, is that women are told how wonderful they are and men are told they are not good enough. Maybe most women need to have their confidence strengthened; and wouldn't a social media fast help? Maybe most men need to step up their game. Maybe folks like us on StayLDS can no longer have our needs fully met by prophetic counsel (no matter what it might be), and so it's easier for us to see its limitations.
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Re: I May Throw Up...

Post by AzWildCat24 » 15 Oct 2018, 22:40

hawkgrrrl wrote:
11 Oct 2018, 17:36
Here were my ruminations on the social media fast, which incidentally I only found out about via Twitter, so take that for what it's worth! https://wheatandtares.org/2018/10/09/ru ... men-girls/
Good read! I'm going to save your blog, it's impressive! :thumbup:

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Re: I May Throw Up...

Post by On Own Now » 16 Oct 2018, 07:29

mom3 wrote:
09 Oct 2018, 21:31
We are all adults. This isn't a one up game.
My suggestion is that when these women reappear on social media, read their posts for a day without commenting and the next day post, "Sorry gals, I'm just getting back now, because my fast went up to 11."
"Let us therefore no longer pass judgment on one another, but resolve instead never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of another." --Romans 14:13

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