Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by DancingCarrot » 21 Apr 2018, 16:10

I can't say for sure, and I love what I get from both symbolic and literal interpretations of Christ. I think I'm fine with either option ending up true. I think I get self-conscious in this belief, especially because the LDS Church tends to teach such a literal interpretation, but when I truly think about it, I have no idea. I'm okay with that.

I love the implications of physics and reality if it's true; I love the hope and "at-one-ment" people can create if it's not.
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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by Ann » 21 Apr 2018, 17:36

Ilovechrist77 wrote:
20 Apr 2018, 20:49
Even after having a faith transition, I can still say YES!
I know what you mean, I think. For me it’s especially after my faith transition.
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"Therefore they said unto him, How were thine eyes opened? He answered and said unto them, A man that is called Jesus made clay, and anointed my eyes...." - John 9:10-11

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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by Ilovechrist77 » 21 Apr 2018, 19:52

Thank you, Ann! :thumbup:

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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by Katzpur » 22 Apr 2018, 07:44

Curt Sunshine wrote:
21 Apr 2018, 15:35
I hope for it and have only the "evidence of things not seen (personally)" provided by others - so I can say I have faith but simply am not certain.
Is anybody really certain of anything? Personally, I almost cringe at the phrase, "I know..." A lot of people won't admit it, but there is not one of us who doesn't just walk in faith.
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." ~Rudyard Kipling ~

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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by Minyan Man » 22 Apr 2018, 08:09

Katzpur wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 07:44
Is anybody really certain of anything? [/quote]

My stock answer is:
my Grand Children's love.
To some extent a degree of innocence is required to all issues of faith. Including the question you asked.

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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by Curt Sunshine » 22 Apr 2018, 11:49

To some extent a degree of innocence is required to all issues of faith. Including the question you asked.


It is important to hold onto a degree of innocence, if only to remain open to learning things that would not be possible without it.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by Katzpur » 22 Apr 2018, 13:33

Minyan Man wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 08:09
Katzpur wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 07:44
Is anybody really certain of anything?
My stock answer is:
my Grand Children's love.
Well, yeah. I can say that I know I love certain people and that they love me. But I was speaking in terms of "spiritual or religious truths."
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." ~Rudyard Kipling ~

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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by dande48 » 22 Apr 2018, 16:17

Katzpur wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 07:44
Is anybody really certain of anything? Personally, I almost cringe at the phrase, "I know..." A lot of people won't admit it, but there is not one of us who doesn't just walk in faith.
See my signature.
Lemony Snicket wrote:"Even though there are no ways of knowing for sure, there are ways of knowing for pretty sure."
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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by Minyan Man » 22 Apr 2018, 21:20

Katzpur wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 13:33
Minyan Man wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 08:09
Katzpur wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 07:44
Is anybody really certain of anything?
My stock answer is:
my Grand Children's love.
Well, yeah. I can say that I know I love certain people and that they love me. But I was speaking in terms of "spiritual or religious truths."
I think you missed my last sentence
To some extent a degree of innocence is required to all issues of faith. Including the question you asked.

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Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Post by Roy » 23 Apr 2018, 09:48

Katzpur wrote:
22 Apr 2018, 07:44
Is anybody really certain of anything?
I know I think, therefor I know I am .... I'm not certain about the rest of you all. :mrgreen:
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