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End of YSA SS

Post by SamBee » 15 Dec 2018, 17:04

I suspect this is a big mistake. What are your thoughts?
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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by DarkJedi » 15 Dec 2018, 21:35

I haven't seen this as an official churchwide policy announcement. Is it something that's happening everywhere or is it a local decision?

In answer to the question, I see where the thought is coming from - if the point is to have one Sunday School class every other week (remember the class for people the missionaries are working with and new members is officially being eliminated) then it makes sense that everybody would be in that one class. I see the benefit, but I also understand why there are YSA SS classes to begin with. In the end I gotta say I support elimination if only in the interest of simplification and deprogrammizing.
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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by DancingCarrot » 16 Dec 2018, 07:37

I thought every ward was going to every other week SS that rotates with PH/RS...? In that regard, both family and singles wards are changing in January. I’ve always found it odd that singles wards tend to put a lot more emphasis on SS classes, but perhaps that’s because we have more free time due to no spouse or children.


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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by DarkJedi » 16 Dec 2018, 08:13

DC, some wards with a large enough contingent of YSA have a separate class for theYSA. If I'm understanding correctly, Sam is talking about those classes being discontinued.
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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by Roadrunner » 16 Dec 2018, 08:18

I can see why this would be difficult for some Young Single Adults. That being said, wards and individuals have explicit permission to meet as groups after church on Sundays as needed or desired. I guarantee that the YSA wards at BYU schools will have additional after church activities and I don’t see any reason other YSA wards can’t. The downside is that it will probably come down to the energy level of local leadership.

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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by DarkJedi » 16 Dec 2018, 13:48

Roadrunner wrote:
16 Dec 2018, 08:18
I can see why this would be difficult for some Young Single Adults. That being said, wards and individuals have explicit permission to meet as groups after church on Sundays as needed or desired. I guarantee that the YSA wards at BYU schools will have additional after church activities and I don’t see any reason other YSA wards can’t. The downside is that it will probably come down to the energy level of local leadership.
Indeed BYU wards already have additional outside the block activities. Many of them have what's called "ward prayer" meetings usually on Sunday evenings. And they are also organized into home evening groups. And I believe the idea of "break the fast" or "linger longer" luncheons originated in BYU wards.

My own stake has a YSA branch at one of the universities. None of the other wards/branches have a separate YSA SS mostly because there just aren't enough YSA in any of them. The YSA branch did have two SS classes, though - one sort of "standard" one and one where they could go a bit more in depth. I hope they keep both. (They just got a new BP and I think he'd be inclined to keep it unless he's directed not to.)
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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by SamBee » 16 Dec 2018, 15:26

We discussed this in ward council at my request... it's churchwide.
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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by DancingCarrot » 19 Dec 2018, 10:27

DJ, oh I see. I guess I’ve always been in areas with a large enough YSA population to warrant a separate ward.

In my metro area, we’re still keeping SS classes, just every other week that alternates with PH/RS. Unless I misunderstood the announcement...?


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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by dande48 » 19 Dec 2018, 11:24

I could see this actually being a good thing. In LDS culture, singles are pretty marginalized, with the HUGE focus on families. With anything YSA related is primarily meant to group them together and get them paired off. But I am hoping with this change in policy, people will start to realize there is nothing wrong with being single, nor should anyone rush to tie the knot with "any worthy member".
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Re: End of YSA SS

Post by mom3 » 19 Dec 2018, 13:25

But I am hoping with this change in policy, people will start to realize there is nothing wrong with being single, nor should anyone rush to tie the knot with "any worthy member".
On all these changes I am so looking forward to cultural change potential in them. One of the most messed up things, IMO, is how much we get into each others space. We spend forever sizing up everyone else and passing judgement. Whether it's how many piercings or how often you attend the temple.

I am hoping the top team really sticks and reiterates the ideas of individual and family, and inches us miles away from Ensign Cover looks and messages.
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