How do you measure success in "ministering"

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Re: How do you measure success in "ministering"

Post by SamBee » 23 May 2018, 12:39

I see its roots in the colonization of Deseret... in a much more non-threatening way. Many of the members became farmers in remote areas, and having home teachers promoted community between these remote outposts so they got to know each other and also meant that help could be requested if needed.
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Re: How do you measure success in "ministering"

Post by SilentDawning » 24 May 2018, 01:58

Roy wrote:
23 May 2018, 08:43
SilentDawning wrote:
23 May 2018, 07:16
When did home teaching first start anyway?
From what I have read it started in the Mormon Reformation period of 1856-7. "Reformation" here means that the saints were asked to reform their own lives to better follow the gospel. In my mind, The LDS church during those few years went through a sort of theocratic police state crackdown (in rhetoric and feel if not in actual practice). Two home or ward missionaries were assigned to each ward. I perceive these gentleman as a sort of deputized representatives of church leadership. They were to be the eyes and ears, to gauge gospel commitment in each home (by conducting fairly probing worthiness interviews), to encourage repentance/recommitment to even greater obedience, to invite rebaptism as a symbol of that recommitment (under possible threat of excommunication), and report back. Not surprisingly almost nobody refused rebaptism.

Here is a (IMO Pollyanna) description from LDSLiving: ... ew/s/80185
In the early years of the Church in the Salt Lake Valley, a "home missionary" program was started to help motivate the Saints, who were becoming increasingly apathetic in their faith. After attempts to persuade and plead with the members failed, Church leaders called "teachers" to visit homes to help stir members to repentance.
from Wikipedia:
leaders at church headquarters then established a policy of assigning two "home" or ward missionaries in each congregational unit. They were asked to visit each family in the ward, assess their material needs and provide help where possible. They were also asked to inquire into family members' spiritual commitment, including asking searching questions about religious practices. After some months of these missionary visits, Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City and surrounding communities who had not yet been rebaptized were asked to do so as an expression of their ongoing commitment to the church. Paul H. Peterson asserts that those who refused to be rebaptized might "lose their membership in the Church
This same Mormon Reformation period gave us the MMM and also BY's musings on blood atonement. IMO it was a very scary time to be in the Utah territory as a less than straight arrow Mormon.
Great research!!! Sounds like the "watchman in Israel" but from a surveillance perspective!!!
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