SilentDawning wrote: ↑
31 Mar 2018, 20:05
Curt Sunshine wrote: ↑
31 Mar 2018, 19:55
Good. We ask for change, so we can't complain when good change happens.
Good point. I am happy for the change. I often wonder if, given the experiences that led some of us here, if they:
a) cancelled home teaching
b) did away with tithing
c) gave women the priesthood
d) did away with conscripted service
e) became transparent with the finances
f) gave gays full fellowship...
g) apologized for past mistakes
h) admitted certain doctrinal mainstays were actually just opinion and mistaken
would that change our willingness to be involved, to feel proud of the church again, etcetera?
If they did all this, it would make me willing to stay, if only for a little while longer. Though for point d, I think it's beneficial for leaders to be taken from the unambitious, which is sort of a side benefit of conscripted service. Those who aspire to positions of authority are often the worst choices for leaders.
Though I would add a few items to your list
i) Eliminate the requirement to live the WoW to have a TR
j) Fix garments to actually be practical/comfortable for women. Men could use a few upgrades too, but it's not as much of an issue.
k) Stop shaming young people about modesty and sexuality. There are healthier ways to promote waiting until marriage.
l) Show more willingness to address the elephant in the room when people bring up controversial topics such as worthiness interviews and historical issues. And hold leaders accountable when they do horrible things instead of covering it up.
m) Use bishop's storehouses as soup kitchens and build homeless shelters. You can still promote self-reliance in homeless shelters by giving them the resources and skills they need to get out of poverty (but the gospel alone will never magically make them rich). You can even use the mall to fund it. I don't care. Just show that you care about the poor instead of merely paying lip service to the idea.
n) Stop making such a big deal out of sharing the gospel and reduce the pressure to go on a mission. If the message of the church isn't good enough for people to want to share it on their own terms, there is something wrong.
o) Drop Sunday School and shave 10 minutes off SM. SM and PH/RS are enough. 2 hours of church is plenty.
For me, it's starting to become an issue of doing too little too late.