April 2018 General Men's Session

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April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by Curt Sunshine » 31 Mar 2018, 16:52

Opening the thread.
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Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by Beefster » 31 Mar 2018, 17:28

Combining high priests and elder's quorum. That's a good move.
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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by Curt Sunshine » 31 Mar 2018, 17:30

I agree, and it is a MAJOR change. My eyes about popped out of my head.

Ironically, the men now mirror the organization of the Relief Society.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by Beefster » 31 Mar 2018, 17:32

It doesn't really change anything for me since I'm in a YSA ward, but I think it will help with the issue with tiny quorums in family wards. It will help a ton for rural areas and otherwise geriatric wards.
Boys are governed by rules. Men are governed by principles.

Often I hear doubt being presented as the opposite of faith but I think certainty does a better job of filling that role. Doubts can help faith grow, certainty almost always makes faith shrink. --nibbler

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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by DarkJedi » 31 Mar 2018, 17:33

We have been meeting together a couple weeks per month for some time just to have a critical mass. Good move. I'm eager to hear more.
In the absence of knowledge or faith there is always hope.

Once there was a gentile...who came before Hillel. He said "Convert me on the condition that you teach me the whole Torah while I stand on one foot." Hillel converted him, saying: That which is despicable to you, do not do to your fellow, this is the whole Torah, and the rest is commentary, go and learn it."

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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by Curt Sunshine » 31 Mar 2018, 17:36

I am glad he said explicitly that they don't want High Priests taking over Elders Quorum, that they want the new presidencies to be comprised of current High Priests and Elders.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by Curt Sunshine » 31 Mar 2018, 17:38

"I hope we no longer speak of being 'advanced' in the MP."
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by DarkJedi » 31 Mar 2018, 17:46

Curt Sunshine wrote:
31 Mar 2018, 17:38
"I hope we no longer speak of being 'advanced' in the MP."
Like. :thumbup:
In the absence of knowledge or faith there is always hope.

Once there was a gentile...who came before Hillel. He said "Convert me on the condition that you teach me the whole Torah while I stand on one foot." Hillel converted him, saying: That which is despicable to you, do not do to your fellow, this is the whole Torah, and the rest is commentary, go and learn it."

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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by Beefster » 31 Mar 2018, 17:50

No more PEC. Nice.
Boys are governed by rules. Men are governed by principles.

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Re: April 2018 General Men's Session

Post by DarkJedi » 31 Mar 2018, 17:56

Beefster wrote:
31 Mar 2018, 17:50
No more PEC. Nice.
That one has been coming for awhile.
In the absence of knowledge or faith there is always hope.

Once there was a gentile...who came before Hillel. He said "Convert me on the condition that you teach me the whole Torah while I stand on one foot." Hillel converted him, saying: That which is despicable to you, do not do to your fellow, this is the whole Torah, and the rest is commentary, go and learn it."

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