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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by amateurparent » 28 May 2017, 08:07

I've reached a point at which I feel a certain amount of schadenfreude when I look at certain verschlimmbesserung situations in the church.

Get out the popcorn ... It's DRAMA time.
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by dande48 » 28 May 2017, 12:43

amateurparent wrote:
28 May 2017, 08:07
I've reached a point at which I feel a certain amount of schadenfreude when I look at certain verschlimmbesserung situations in the church.

Get out the popcorn ... It's DRAMA time.
You just gave me futterneid. What better way to cope with weltschmerz?
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by Reuben » 28 May 2017, 13:17

dande48 wrote:
28 May 2017, 12:43
amateurparent wrote:
28 May 2017, 08:07
I've reached a point at which I feel a certain amount of schadenfreude when I look at certain verschlimmbesserung situations in the church.

Get out the popcorn ... It's DRAMA time.
You just gave me futterneid. What better way to cope with weltschmerz?
What are these words? Do German people experience emotions that normal people don't?
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by DarkJedi » 28 May 2017, 13:24

Reuben wrote:
28 May 2017, 13:17
dande48 wrote:
28 May 2017, 12:43
amateurparent wrote:
28 May 2017, 08:07
I've reached a point at which I feel a certain amount of schadenfreude when I look at certain verschlimmbesserung situations in the church.

Get out the popcorn ... It's DRAMA time.
You just gave me futterneid. What better way to cope with weltschmerz?
What are these words? Do German people experience emotions that normal people don't?
I don't think they do, but I do think they have better words for describing differences in feelings and emotions.
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by amateurparent » 28 May 2017, 15:33

I do not speak German .. yet. My DD has decided that Munich is her first choice of universities. She is starting a German course next week .. so .. I hope to learn too.

I love the word fetterneid. It was on Word Of The Day a few years ago. It means "Fat Envy". Jealousy is the easiest translation into English. I think it's an awesome word. Weltschmerz was one I had to look up on Google Translate. It means "World Weary"
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by SamBee » 28 May 2017, 16:22

Funnily enough Germans have diseases we don't, notably
Kreislaufzusammenbruch which is actually untranslatable, but you can buy medication in Germany for.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/61140/15 ... own-german
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by dande48 » 28 May 2017, 17:44

Reuben wrote:
28 May 2017, 13:17
What are these words? Do German people experience emotions that normal people don't?
The German language is beautiful, in that it creates compound words for literally everything. Because of this, they have words that allow expression of feelings and ideas that are untranslatable into English.

Weltschmerz is the feeling that the world is headed in a negative direction (usually politcally), and is unlikely to get better, and it's making you depressed. Literally "world weariness".

Futterneid is literally "food envy", or the feeling that you get when you have just ordered at a restaraunt, and you see another plate being brought out and realize that is what you really wanted all along.

A couple of other good ones are
  • "Torschlusspanik" -"gate closing panic", or the panic you feel as you get older and are losing the opportunities of youth.
  • "Sontagsleere" - "Sunday Emptiness"; we've all been there.
  • "Witzbeharrsamkeit" - "Joke insistance", or telling the whole world the same stupid joke long after it's funny.
  • "Drachenfutter" - "Dragon food". A gift of flowers, chocolate, etc. in order to appease your wife's fury.
And my personal favorite:
"Abgrundanziehung"- "Abyss attraction", or the pull of the cliff's edge.
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by Reuben » 28 May 2017, 18:23

I suppose I should have been clearer. I was playing dumb to be funny. ;) I've written about schadenfreude before, sort of, a long time ago when I was into creative writing.

My new personal favorite German noun is Kummerspeck, which is usually translated as "grief bacon". It's the fat you put on by gorging yourself on Ben & Jerry's after a breakup.
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by Curt Sunshine » 28 May 2017, 21:46

My daughter served her mission in Germany and loves the language and the people. As a wordsmith by nature, I love the concept of being able to use compounds to describe more things than are possible in English.

That is all.
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Re: Verschlimmbesserung

Post by Heber13 » 29 May 2017, 14:19

Reuben wrote:
28 May 2017, 18:23
My new personal favorite German noun is Kummerspeck, which is usually translated as "grief bacon". It's the fat you put on by gorging yourself on Ben & Jerry's after a breakup.
:lol: :lol:

Bwahaha...ok...that is my favorite too!! "grief bacon"! Love it :clap: I need to get me summa dat.
Luke: "Why didn't you tell me? You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father."
Obi-Wan: "Your father... was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I told you was true... from a certain point of view."
Luke: "A certain point of view?"
Obi-Wan: "Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to...depend greatly on our point of view."

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