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Re: Ghosts, Spirits and Ouija Boards

Posted: 08 Aug 2015, 06:58
by SamBee
Most of it is very bad news. Especially Ouija, stay away.

Of course the Fox Sisters came from the same region as Smith.

Re: Ghosts, Spirits and Ouija Boards

Posted: 08 Aug 2015, 19:34
by SilentDawning
I believe that issues of spirits, salvation, life after death, certain health products, and even Ouiji/Ouija Boards are unproveable. And people milk people's lack of knowledge and the unverifiability of these phenomena to their own ends. I believe JS was likely very good at it, although he may have been operating from sincere personal belief.

I still remember how disillusioned I became when I was talking to a friend of mine about how I had said I had had revelation to do something, and had made promises to people of follow-through. Then, it became clear to me the action I had felt inspired to pursue, was somehow wrong. I mentioned this to my friend, who baptized me, about how awkward it felt to tell everyone I wasn't going to follow through, having said earlier that it was inspired.

he replied "That stuff is EASY to get out of". Meaning, the unverifiability and pliability of revelation makes it easy to recant and to fail to justify. I was shocked as I had previously made a huge life decision -- becoming a Mormon -- based on all the hype about revelation and how it should direct our lives. Unverifiability is one thing that makes religion and claims to inspiration so "workable" in religion.

I will say this -- once I participated in a Ouiji board session. I guess it was a seance of sorts. We all put our hands on the apparatus that sits on the ouiji board. And it started moving after we called the spirits. The problem was that three of us had our hands on the apparatus, so one person may have been moving it, and not telling the truth afterwards. I have had so little evidence of an extra-earthly world that I am agnostic about it. I have chosen indecision about it, as I have on so many other issues relating to religion, afterlife, inspiration, etcetera. God's silence is extremely loud to me.