What is the goal of the temple recommend interview?

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Re: What is the goal of the temple recommend interview?

Post by wayfarer » 20 Jan 2015, 19:39

Ann wrote:I'm new to being a green-typeface moderator here, but maybe this will be the end of it. I'm really angry.
is this a moderation comment? I love giving moderators a hard time. Ask ray.
Ann wrote:To the church I want to say: Write the standard questions differently if you want this information. Please don't pretend that only open advocacy endangers a person's recommend. If my unspoken thoughts and sympathies are going to keep me out of the temple, I'm afraid they will also keep me out of the chapel. Life's too short for this particular type of contentiousness.
yeahhh..... FUBAR -- "Fouled" up beyond all recognition.
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Re: What is the goal of the temple recommend interview?

Post by Ann » 20 Jan 2015, 21:38

wayfarer wrote: is this a moderation comment?
No! I just meant that my reaction to this wasn't very . . . .moderate.

And maybe it doesn't matter if bishops choose not to ask even when they know that your sibling has an OW profile, for instance. But the church seems to be encouraging it. Sad, and, really, truly, not something I thought I would ever see in print.
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Re: What is the goal of the temple recommend interview?

Post by SamBee » 26 Jan 2015, 10:29

Do you oppress the hireling in his wages?
This is an interesting one. Two years ago, I did work for a month, and was not paid for it. Major problem today - people ripping off their employees.
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Re: What is the goal of the temple recommend interview?

Post by LookingHard » 26 Jan 2015, 13:03

SamBee wrote:
Do you oppress the hireling in his wages?
This is an interesting one. Two years ago, I did work for a month, and was not paid for it. Major problem today - people ripping off their employees.
My first "consulting" job ended up being "pro bono" even though I didn't intend for it to be such.

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Re: What is the goal of the temple recommend interview?

Post by SamBee » 28 Jan 2015, 09:01

LookingHard wrote:
SamBee wrote:
Do you oppress the hireling in his wages?
This is an interesting one. Two years ago, I did work for a month, and was not paid for it. Major problem today - people ripping off their employees.
My first "consulting" job ended up being "pro bono" even though I didn't intend for it to be such.
There's a lot of that, and many of them, internships etc turn out to be a form of exploitation.

While I'm glad that "are you honest in your business dealings?" is still in there, I wish "Do you oppress the hireling in his wages?", or something couched in more modern language was still as well.
DASH1730 "An Area Authority...[was] asked...who...would go to the Telestial kingdom. His answer: "murderers, adulterers and a lot of surprised Mormons!"'
1ST PRES 1978 "[LDS] believe...there is truth in many religions and philosophies...good and great religious leaders... have raised the spiritual, moral, and ethical awareness of their people. When we speak of The [LDS] as the only true church...it is...authorized to administer the ordinances...by Jesus Christ... we do not mean... it is the only teacher of truth."

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Re: What is the goal of the temple recommend interview?

Post by DarkJedi » 28 Jan 2015, 09:20

SamBee wrote:While I'm glad that "are you honest in your business dealings?" is still in there, I wish "Do you oppress the hireling in his wages?", or something couched in more modern language was still as well.
This reminds me of an experience my teen sons had a few years ago. A nearby member had asked them to come help him with some work at his house. Two of them went, they both worked several hours on various projects (mostly yard work). At the end he paid the older son more than the younger one who felt he had worked just as hard as his brother. He used the parable of the vineyard workers to "teach" why. In the years since he has asked several times if the younger one (now the only one home) will come and help him at his house - he always refuses (sometimes with an excuse, sometimes not). The guy wonders why. I told him once, but he never explained himself or apologized or tried to make it right. I fully support my son in this case and don't ever try to talk him into going. One of them learned from the parable!
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Re: What is the goal of the temple recommend interview?

Post by LookingHard » 28 Jan 2015, 10:47

DarkJedi wrote:
SamBee wrote:While I'm glad that "are you honest in your business dealings?" is still in there, I wish "Do you oppress the hireling in his wages?", or something couched in more modern language was still as well.
This reminds me of an experience my teen sons had a few years ago. A nearby member had asked them to come help him with some work at his house. Two of them went, they both worked several hours on various projects (mostly yard work). At the end he paid the older son more than the younger one who felt he had worked just as hard as his brother. He used the parable of the vineyard workers to "teach" why. In the years since he has asked several times if the younger one (now the only one home) will come and help him at his house - he always refuses (sometimes with an excuse, sometimes not). The guy wonders why. I told him once, but he never explained himself or apologized or tried to make it right. I fully support my son in this case and don't ever try to talk him into going. One of them learned from the parable!


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