General Women's Meeting - The new opening session

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General Women's Meeting - The new opening session

Post by West » 30 Oct 2014, 15:54

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/local ... FLAuTCJOuZ

I remember in another thread that there was a discussion about the editing of the conference prayer, so I thought I'd drop this here if it hasn't been dropped already.
"The First Presidency has decided that the General Women's Meeting will be designated as the General Women's Session of general conference,” said LDS Church spokeswoman Jessica Moody in a statement emailed to 2News.

This comes after an edit to video of a prayer recorded during the conference in October. During his opening prayer at the priesthood session on Oct. 4, Elder Bruce A. Carlson of the Seventy referred to the meeting as the "fourth session" of the conference, presumably including the general women’s meeting the prior weekend in the count.
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Post by hawkgrrrl » 30 Oct 2014, 16:50

Best analogy: "Happy news: the people responsible for the llama credits have been sacked" (From Kristine H on BCC)

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Post by Curt Sunshine » 30 Oct 2014, 16:56

I am happy about this. If we complain, we need to acknowledge changes that address our complaints.
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Post by Heber13 » 30 Oct 2014, 16:58

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.



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Post by DarkJedi » 30 Oct 2014, 18:05

We bitched about the editing and the seeming contradiction between GAs. The church appears to be trying to make it right and acknowledge that the women's session is first and it is another step in the right direction. It's time to acknowledge that and quit complaining.
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Post by Daeruin » 30 Oct 2014, 20:20

:clap: :clap: :clap:
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Post by hawkgrrrl » 30 Oct 2014, 21:02

Uchtdorf 1, PR 0.

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Post by mom3 » 30 Oct 2014, 22:45

Another win for Dieter.

My fantasy First Presidency has Dieter as President. Chieko Okazaki - 1st Counselor, David O. McKay - 2nd Counselor, Belle Spafford - General Women's leader.
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Post by LookingHard » 31 Oct 2014, 07:05

A win and we should accept it and stop harping over it. I am also glad that "someone" is hearing the complaints. BUT it is clear that agitation DOES nudge things even if we continually hear "Changes will and should ONLY come from on top."

I do dislike those that just like to bash against the leaders. I have lashed out a bit during my angry stage and feeling betrayed. But since then I have always tried to do an honest job of placing myself in a leaders shoes before I say anything. It does help temper just bashing on a set of people that I think by and large are good people and trying their best to do what they think is right. I was hoping/assuming they were a bit more guided in every step, but given my calling I hold now and how sparse the times were I feel a strong confirmation - maybe it is the same all the way up the chain.

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Re: General Women's Meeting - The new opening session

Post by hawkgrrrl » 31 Oct 2014, 07:44

Isn't this more indicative of a struggle between PR and the leaders? Not that the leaders weren't sure what to do. It's impossible to say from here, but PR has opposed women consistently, and I imagine that some of the Q12 have sided with them (or that PR would say it was at the behest of the Q12), but some of the Q12 have consistently sought to create more voice and equality for women.

Unlike PR, I don't see PR as a de facto member of the Q12.

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