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Re: General Conference Open Thread

Post by mercyngrace » 02 Apr 2011, 13:53

Audible murmuring among the congregation at Elder Nelson comment about "cafeteria approach"...

Anyone else hear that?
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Re: General Conference Open Thread

Post by Curt Sunshine » 02 Apr 2011, 13:57

Elder Maynes:

First pornography reference, just in case someone wants to know - but it was only a mention in passing.

Very generic family talk so far.

Frankly, I've never liked guilt-based talks, even though I agree with the points he is making.

"Parents preside . . ." - That's at least the fourth or fifth time "preside" has been used in connection with husbands AND wives.
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Post by Curt Sunshine » 02 Apr 2011, 13:57

Elder Samuelson:

A direct reference to those who struggle to maintain a testimony.

Suggestions from young adults shared.

1) Everyone has worth. 2) Often, a change of heart happens gradually. 3) Testing is a fundamental purpose of life. 4) Trust what we believe or know. 5) Testimony acquisition is a process. 6) Share your testimony to strengthen it. 7) It is important to do the little things. (interesting list of "little" things - things that many would call "big" things) 8) Don't have higher standards of others than we do of ourselves, including leaders. 9) Don't be to hard on yourself when you make a mistake. 10) The Atonement of Christ is offered continuously for all of us, even as we struggle with details.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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Re: General Conference Open Thread

Post by Curt Sunshine » 02 Apr 2011, 13:58

Elder Oaks:

Search our hearts for what we really desire. The desires we act on determine everything about us.

We have some very basic physical desires (needs) that must be met, but sometimes we override them.

Sometimes even sleep is overridden by other desires. (I looked at my oldest daughter and said, "Sex?" She had to whisper it to my wife, since there are little kids all around her.)

Our works are a result of the desire of our hearts.

Four things we should avoid making our ultimate priorities: Property, prominence, pride and power.

His example is from the movie "127 Hours" - well, actually, probably the book, since the movie is R-rated. (Everyone here might want to take that reference as being about the movie and implicit permission to watch R-rated movies. :lol: :twisted: )

What we become is a result of what we desire.

He quoted a letter that referred to men as a helpmeet to women. How awesome is that to all of you?!
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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Re: General Conference Open Thread

Post by Curt Sunshine » 02 Apr 2011, 14:51

Elder Ballard:

We live in a very complex, busy, demanding world that can wear us down.

Flakes/flecks are much more common than nuggets. Don't miss the small flecks by searching only for large nuggets. By small and simple things are great blessings brought to pass.

We should strive to keep our lives simple, focused on the things that matter most. One principle encompasses all the Gospel: LOVE. Love and serve as Jesus would if he were here among us.

Some of his fondest memories are of the service rendered at the ward level.

We should serve in our communities as a pure expression of our love of others.
Kindness is an essence of greatness. - Elder Wirthlin

Each of us can do something to help someone. Unless we lose ourselves in the service of others, there ultimately is little purpose in our lives. - Pres. Monson
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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Post by flower » 02 Apr 2011, 15:07

I did not enjoy most of today's conference. Many of the messages made me sad. I will not elaborate. I will say however that I really appreciated Ballard's talk. It was a true Christ-like talk, and I was glad to see conference end on a good note!
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Post by flower » 02 Apr 2011, 15:09

Ray Degraw wrote: His example is from the movie "127 Hours" - well, actually, probably the book, since the movie is R-rated. (Everyone here might want to take that reference as being about the movie and implicit permission to watch R-rated movies. :lol: :twisted: )
I just watched that movie last night! It was good. I too wondered if his telling of the Aron Ralston story would make members want to see the film.
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Post by cwald » 02 Apr 2011, 15:37

I think Ballard gave one of the best talks I've heard in a long long time.

I did not like the implications of Nelson's "cafeteria" comment. yes, he was referring to following the commandments, but we all know how that will be interpreted. The people will take it, and it will make it tougher for folks who have multiple earrings, tattoos and drink coffee feel welcome.

I also swore during Packers talk. He certainly got creative and sneaky to get his digs in on the whole homosexual community - but they were there. Also, he fell back into the whole Mormon habit of talking about the WoW in one paragraph, and then transitioned immediately to chastity and even quoted the whole "most serious sin next to murder." As if the two have any kind of relationship at all when it comes to sin. It's just the habit that I have heard a million times growing up that chastity and WoW are the two worse sins, and completely define the church. Sad.
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Re: General Conference Open Thread

Post by mercyngrace » 02 Apr 2011, 16:21

My favorite talks of the day were:

Elder Richards on Grace and the healing power of the Physician.
Pres. Eyring on Consecration.
Elder Ballard on Charity and loving our neighbors.

All are topics that I think focus on the heart of the gospel.

My favorite line was by Elder Richards:
"...there is a cure that is universal and absolute."
Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little. ~ Luke 7:47

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Post by Curt Sunshine » 02 Apr 2011, 21:55

Elder Ballard's talk also was my favorite, but, from a social / cultural standpoint, my favorite part of the whole day was when Pres. Eyring talked about a High Priests Group Leader arranging help for someone who was struggling to support his OR HER family. It was subtle, and it probably won't get a lot of press, but I think it was the social / cultural statement of the day.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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