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Post by Falcon20Commander » 03 Sep 2017, 05:40

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dande48
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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by dande48 » 03 Sep 2017, 12:05

Hi Andew,

Welcome! I can really empathize with how you are feeling. You're amongst friends here. I'm happy you could join us, and look forward to getting to know you better.

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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by DarkJedi » 03 Sep 2017, 13:01

Welcome to the forum, I'm glad you found us and I look forward to reading more of your insights. I think many faith crises/transitions were rooted in the missionary experience and I totally agree with your observation about how cultish missions can be. And I likewise know many people outside (mostly but not all Christian) who are disciples and are very happy.
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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by Roy » 03 Sep 2017, 13:10

Welcome, You have permission to land. May it be what we call a "soft landing".

I too had a few surprises from RSR...but that was not the end of it for me. I heartily concur with your assessment about other churches doing the work of God. I also believe that some individuals are successful in those churches that would be miserable and chased off in the LDS church.
"It is not so much the pain and suffering of life which crushes the individual as it is its meaninglessness and hopelessness." C. A. Elwood

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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by SilentDawning » 03 Sep 2017, 13:43

Welcome. You can not only land you can park your aircraft here.

Very articulate description of your journey that led you here. I got through all of it and really enjoyed it. Your parents sound like the way I interact with my son. Very much the same. And in spite of not being a BoM thumper, your parents saw you leave on a mission. Impressive! You are also a free thinker -- also impressive!!

Very interested in your life-changing stories, and your questions. Although I'm not much of a historical responder to questions -- for me history is as Napoleon alluded "a pack of lies, agreed upon". In our case, not even agreed upon. And of course, pack of lies is a harsh statement. But you get the point -- we don't know what really happened, so I am agnostic about historical debate.

My strength, I think is in being at peace in the church even though you are sometimes swimming upstream. Perhaps I can help in that area.

Hope to hear more from you!

SD
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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by Falcon20Commander » 03 Sep 2017, 23:57

Dande313,

Thank you for the warm welcome!

Dark Jedi,

What a cool profile name! I can't wait to see what Star Wars VIII brings. Thank you for the welcome.

Roy,

Thank you for your shared insights and the warm welcome.

SD,

Thank you for your remarks and inviting me to stay. I have a really good feeling about this community. I have always had an inquiring mind. It is who I am. I figured during my mission that I would do as I'm told and ask questions in the next life, but I just couldn't. Ideas, thoughts, and questions first started surfacing, and then ended up screaming to be explored. I appreciate your welcoming comments.

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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by SamBee » 04 Sep 2017, 02:21

I'm afraid you'll have to pay a landing fee - please forward us your bank details.
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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by dande48 » 04 Sep 2017, 12:09

SamBee wrote:
04 Sep 2017, 02:21
I'm afraid you'll have to pay a landing fee - please forward us your bank details.
MUGU GUYMEN, keep off I dey here! :x
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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by Beefster » 04 Sep 2017, 12:44

Falcon20Commander wrote:
03 Sep 2017, 05:40
I was introduced to the worst monster I have ever met in my life—the mission culture.
I can say that I relate to this sentiment. My mission's culture was nowhere near as bad as yours, but I would say that missions tend to put obedience on such a high pedestal that it becomes emotionally damaging. Add black-and-white thinking to that and you have a recipe for endless feelings of inadequacy. Fortunately, my mission had enough black sheep in it to counteract much of the damage done to me.

Welcome, person younger than me. I think you're the new youngest member of the forum. :P
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Sometimes our journeys take us to unexpected places. That is a truly beautiful thing.

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Re: Permission to Land here?

Post by Falcon20Commander » 05 Sep 2017, 04:42

@SamBee - Better than going down the runway in a fireball. Info is on its way... I can already tell we have so much in common.

@Beefster - I love the avatar you have (no pun intended). Thank you for the welcoming.

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