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Re: Uncertain and Unsettled and New to this Forum

Post by DarkJedi » 01 Apr 2015, 04:49

Roadrunner wrote:
DarkJedi wrote: Maybe we should have rumspringa, like the Amish. Almost all of them return.
I don't know a lot about the Amish and had never heard of rumspringa. Interesting idea although I don't think it would fly (although I suspect you're partially joking). LDS leadership doesn't do well with the idea of premeditated repentance.

On a tangent - during my time at graduate business school on the east coast one of the most interesting people I met called himself Mennonite. He dressed and mostly behaved like everyone else except he never swore, didn't drink, and was well liked by everyone. We met because we were both at a bar drinking sprite. He's literally the most intelligent person I've ever met and I believe he's a bond analyst on Wall Street now. He probably makes a substantial amount of money and lives in a humble apartment in NYC.

Maybe he "left" but still has a lot of Mennonite in him.
Not to derail this any more, but Mennonites and Amish are often confused. Mennonites are more "liberal" Amish, if you will, with some of the most liberal living a modern, but still very committed, lifestyle. Generally speaking, if you're in an Amish area and you see guys dressed in colorful clothing they're not Amish, they're Mennonite. Mennonites do not eschew modern technology. That's not a true, in depth description of Mennonites, just a basic generalization.
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Re: Uncertain and Unsettled and New to this Forum

Post by Roadrunner » 01 Apr 2015, 16:45

Thanks for keeping me honest DJ. I knew I'd be called out on that one. :smile: The wikipedia reference to rumspringa says some Mennonite cultures also practice it. Maybe I'll have my own midlife crisis and call it a delayed onset rumspringa.

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Re: Uncertain and Unsettled and New to this Forum

Post by amateurparent » 04 Apr 2015, 11:16


I am amazed at how much you have experienced, survived, processed, and accomplished in 26 years. Just. Wow.

About 12 step programs .. I have had a number of friends attending a variety of programs who have tried the LDS version. Most found it too watered down. I listened to their feedback and never tried.

I have found Al Alon a truly wonderful group. ( my convert TBM dad who spent 8 years serving in bishoprics struggled with alcoholism). A few friends have said good things about Overeaters Anonnymous.
I have no advance degrees in parenting. No national credentials. I am an amateur parent. I read, study, and learn all I can to be the best parent possible. Every time I think I have reached expert status with one child for one stage in their life, something changes and I am back to amateur status again. Now when I really mess up, I just apologize to my child, and explain that I am indeed an amateur .. I'm still learning how to do this right.

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