Jacob and Esau

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SamBee
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Re: Jacob and Esau

Post by SamBee » 14 Mar 2018, 19:37

Well it does happen in real life - Donald Trump's older brother fell by the wayside and King George managed to replace his older brother Edward, who was probably a Nazi sympathiser.
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Re: Jacob and Esau

Post by DarkJedi » 15 Mar 2018, 05:21

Curt Sunshine wrote:
14 Mar 2018, 17:56
Nephi also was a prick as a brother, but he got to dictate the narrative (looking at the BofM from an orthodox viewpoint). Without Second Nephi 4, he would come across as a completely self-righteous jerk.

Such is life.
Very interesting point. I wonder what a Book of Laman or Book of Lemuel or Book of Sam might read like?
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Re: Jacob and Esau

Post by dande48 » 15 Mar 2018, 06:57

DarkJedi wrote:
15 Mar 2018, 05:21
Very interesting point. I wonder what a Book of Laman or Book of Lemuel or Book of Sam might read like?
The Book of Laman

Chapter 18:
"We've finally set up for ourselves a pretty good life here in the valley. It's been tough; we're still camping. But now Nephi's talking about how God told him in a dream to build a boat and sail to who-knows-where. I don't see why we have to pack up and move AGAIN. Nephi keeps acting like he's in charge, even when father's still around. I spoke with Lemuel, and we both agreed we needed to tell Nephi how it is. And Nephi FA-REAKED. He said if we touched him, he'd kill us. He looked like he meant it to. He knows I've got no qualms about tying him up for a bit, to let him simmer down (I think he's still bitter about last time). But as psycho as he is, I don't want this to turn into a blood feud. He is my brother, after all."

Chapter 20:
"We've been stuck on this boat for DAYS... no land in site. I think we're gonna die. Lemuel cracked out the wine last night. We figure, if we're going to die, we'd better enjoy life while we still can. And do you know how our little prick of a brother, Nephi, responded? Complained we were too loud. I swear, if he keeps this up, I'm going to tie him to the mast."
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Re: Jacob and Esau

Post by SamBee » 15 Mar 2018, 08:27

Laman
"We've discovered this nice new country. Not another person in sight. We built a town real quick and the hunting's good. We're all having so many kids. My wives keep giving birth to triplets.

"I set out my vision for a beachfront casino and bar before the council to help develop the area. But Nephi and my parents spent their time filibustering about building five new temples. I keep telling Nephi that I've got way more life experience than him. I spent years running a resort near Jerusalem while he was still in school."

Lemuel
"Am sick of being lumped in with Laman all the time. I've got a mind of my own you know? But Nephi can be really dumb some times, and I have to take Laman's side. All I want to do is have some fun."

Sam
"Managed to document 200 new species of plant the other day. Trying to work out which ones we can cultivate. Nephi's been trying out some of the local 'shrooms, been getting visions. Amazing animals here too, but don't know what to call them. Only got round to naming the cureloms.

"I wish my brothers would stop fighting. How am I supposed to conduct scientific research with all these wars going on round my lab? Nobody ever thanks me for all I do."
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1ST PRES 1978 "[LDS] believe...there is truth in many religions and philosophies...good and great religious leaders... have raised the spiritual, moral, and ethical awareness of their people. When we speak of The [LDS] as the only true church...it is...authorized to administer the ordinances...by Jesus Christ... we do not mean... it is the only teacher of truth."

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