Roy wrote:I am a business man. Where I work we have a policy ...
I look at this new policy from that same perspective and I believe that church leadership does too.
I like Roy's summary...and I think my heart is heavy because that is exactly what this all feels like...policy and business.
The church and their lawyers have drawn a line in the sand with homosexuality stance, and these seem to be actions out of how to protect their line in the sand. And perhaps that is why it feels so wrong. It feels like business, not like gospel.
Perhaps the reason it is getting so complex and difficult to manage the line, is because drawing the line is the problem where no problem should be there. When the policy gets so hard to maintain and justify, that could mean the policy should go away. We need a leader like SWK to remove a policy based on traditional teachings that are assumed to be God's will, when I find no Book of Mormon scripture that teaches such a thing, only vague biblical teachings and traditional christian belief. Book of Mormon teachings talk about innocence of little children, and gospel teachings of love.
Have we not learned anything from our mormon history and man-made agendas that cloud eternal principles?
Brian Johnston wrote:We all know what it means socially and spiritually to be excluded. The only reason any of us are here or have been here is because we have felt that way deeply (for whatever reasons) and/or have spent great personal energy ministering to those who have felt this way. I instantly flash in my memory to the thousands of times I have told someone on the margins or the fringes (for whatever reason) that they are loved and we can find a way to include them. I think of the people I used to home teach who didn't fit the mold in one way or another, who felt like they couldn't be a part of the congregation, who desperately NEEDED to be a part of the ward and faith community. I didn't care what anyone else thought, they could always come and sit with me in the pews, or go with me to Sunday School. We can find a place for them.
Or was I always mistaken? Did I just make it worse by giving false hope? This is what races through my mind and my soul.
Thanks Brian. These are my exact thoughts at the time. I just started a thread "The Church has something for everyone" ...and yes...these discussions make me now wonder if I have false hope.
I hold out with faith that I was not wrong, there is something for everyone...and we all must work through the real issues about what this policy is and isn't, and how it will be practiced. I do not give up hope yet. But...things like this test it.
In the end, I hope Love wins. I do not think that is foolish to hope for. I think the church can get this right. But right now, it doesn't feel they have figured it out. This is part of our journey. We are in the middle of it.