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Re: Perfection

Posted: 02 Aug 2014, 22:01
by Ilovechrist77
Wow. I agree with Mom3. I want to keep your reply too. I loved your recent episode of A Thoughtful Faith.

Re: Perfection

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 15:32
by jhp33
From a book I'm reading:

In Luther's translation of the Bible, the word usually rendered perfect (teleioi) is rendered as vollkommen. That is, complete, whole, entire. The Atonement is not a backup plan in case we fall short in the process (as we inevitably will); it is the ordained means whereby we gradually become complete and whole, in a sin-strewn process of sanctification through which our Father patiently guides us.

Re: Perfection

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 16:37
by mom3
Thanks jhp33 - I am sticking your definition with Wayfarers. These are both deep and helpful. Thanks team.

Re: Perfection

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 18:01
by Curt Sunshine
From the Quote of the Day thread:
“It seems that in the spiritual world, we do not really find something until we first lose it, ignore it, miss it, long for it, choose it, and personally find it again—but now on a new level. Three of the parables of Jesus are about losing something, searching for it anew with some effort, finding it, and in each case throwing a big party afterwards . . . . Falling, losing, failing, transgression, and sin are the pattern, I am sorry to report. Yet they all lead toward home.” (Richard Rohr, "Falling Upward", 66-67)

Re: Perfection

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 19:37
by mom3
I love Falling Upward.