I appreciated cwald's reply and feel this needed a response. As a researcher I believe in the word "most" and "majority." We often take single cases in the media or in our social circle and blow them out of proportion. I think there is a lot of "mormon-stigma" when talking about alcohol consumption.Featherina wrote:Sorry, Cwald, but that seems a bit like an oxy-moron, don't you think?cwald wrote:Also...most adults do drink alcohol. And they are responsible, law abiding citizens, parents, spouses.
Being response-able - is the ability to respond appropriately.
When one is intoxicated with alcohol, according to police, one's ability to respond is impaired, which is why it is against the law to drink and drive.
There are many other potentially life-changing decisions that must be made when being responsible for children, which is why I never drink alcohol while my children are in my care.
Also, how do you know "most adults" of the about 7 billion people on this earth drink alcohol?
And... how do you measure and know that they are all responsible, law abiding citizens, parents and spouses during the time they drink alcohol?
Moreover, my point was that decisions should be made based on what makes sense as far as what is GOoD, rather than any other person's "doctrinal" writings - whether it be to comply with such writings or to rebel against them.
If we just take USA as we have data for that:
Most = the majority (at least 51%).
88% of men and 78% of women have ever drunk.
72% of men and 60% of women have drunk in the last year.
58% of men and 78% of women have only 1 or 2 drinks on a "drinking day."
65% of men and 79% of women who have ever drunk do so once per week or less often
So statistics show that most people in USA drink and most of them drink responsibly and in moderation.
http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health ... statistics
I don't have data for outside the USA. In Asia and in parts of continental Europe there is a responsible attitude to drinking. People might have a glass of wine with their meal or a few drinks at the weekend with friends.
I'm not trying to have a go at you and I'm sorry if comes across in that way. It's just that we unnecessarily stigmatise alcohol in our church. We imagine that anyone who has a drink is morally or socially irresponsible or one step away from being an alcoholic.
Given the majority drink and do so in moderation, does that also make them responsible, law abiding citizens? I think that most people really are responsible and law abiding. Drinking alcohol in moderation does not stop people being able
I like to take this view of non-Mormons:
Elder M. Russell Ballard"For the most part, our neighbors not of our faith are good, honorable people-every bit as good and honorable as we strive to be. They care about their families, just like we do. They want to make the world a better place, just like we do. They are kind and loving and generous and faithful, just like we seek to be."
http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2 ... n?lang=eng