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Re: Women and Priesthood

Post by hawkgrrrl » 03 Feb 2020, 14:49

To put it in a simpler way, I don't need a man to explain to me what it's like to be a woman, and every time they try, they demonstrate their utter failure to comprehend what they are talking about.

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Re: Women and Priesthood

Post by Curt Sunshine » 03 Feb 2020, 17:54

^^This.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

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Re: Women and Priesthood

Post by DarkJedi » 04 Feb 2020, 06:54

hawkgrrrl wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 14:49
To put it in a simpler way, I don't need a man to explain to me what it's like to be a woman, and every time they try, they demonstrate their utter failure to comprehend what they are talking about.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Note that I often think they have no idea what they're talking about.
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Re: Women and Priesthood

Post by SamBee » 08 Feb 2020, 04:17

hawkgrrrl wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 14:49
To put it in a simpler way, I don't need a man to explain to me what it's like to be a woman, and every time they try, they demonstrate their utter failure to comprehend what they are talking about.
It cuts both ways. I keep on being told what it's like to be a man by women. Not a clue either.
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Re: Women and Priesthood

Post by hawkgrrrl » 12 Feb 2020, 12:52

SamBee wrote:
08 Feb 2020, 04:17
hawkgrrrl wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 14:49
To put it in a simpler way, I don't need a man to explain to me what it's like to be a woman, and every time they try, they demonstrate their utter failure to comprehend what they are talking about.
It cuts both ways. I keep on being told what it's like to be a man by women. Not a clue either.
Fair enough, but in the LDS church 99% of the speakers in GC are men, and men run the women's organization. I'm not aware of any speaking or leadership platform in the church that puts men under women or gives women a microphone and tells them they should opine about the role of men.

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Re: Women and Priesthood

Post by grobert93 » 12 Feb 2020, 15:24

hawkgrrrl wrote:
12 Feb 2020, 12:52
SamBee wrote:
08 Feb 2020, 04:17
hawkgrrrl wrote:
03 Feb 2020, 14:49
To put it in a simpler way, I don't need a man to explain to me what it's like to be a woman, and every time they try, they demonstrate their utter failure to comprehend what they are talking about.
It cuts both ways. I keep on being told what it's like to be a man by women. Not a clue either.
Fair enough, but in the LDS church 99% of the speakers in GC are men, and men run the women's organization. I'm not aware of any speaking or leadership platform in the church that puts men under women or gives women a microphone and tells them they should opine about the role of men.
And when a woman is allowed to speak on the microphone, they need the approval of a priesthood leader to validate what they say.

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Re: Women and Priesthood

Post by Curt Sunshine » 12 Feb 2020, 17:35

And when a woman is allowed to speak on the microphone, they need the approval of a priesthood leader to validate what they say.


To be fair, that is true of when men speak, as well.
I see through my glass, darkly - as I play my saxophone in harmony with the other instruments in God's orchestra. (h/t Elder Joseph Wirthlin)

Even if people view many things differently, the core Gospel principles (LOVE; belief in the unseen but hoped; self-reflective change; symbolic cleansing; striving to recognize the will of the divine; never giving up) are universal.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken

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