Being Gay at BYU - Part 2

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Being Gay at BYU - Part 2

Post by mom3 » 29 Apr 2019, 20:53

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Re: Being Gay at BYU - Part 2

Post by nibbler » 30 Apr 2019, 05:25

Don't look directly into the comments.

He who sits alone, sleeps alone, and walks alone, who is strenuous and subdues himself alone, will find delight in the solitude of the forest.
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Re: Being Gay at BYU - Part 2

Post by Curt Sunshine » 30 Apr 2019, 07:57

Great video. Discouraging comments, from many different faith traditions. I generally don't read comments, since it seems the trolls and haters come out of the woodwork.

I expected the comments to be bad, so I wasn't surprised. This is a global issue. It obviously isn't confined to the LDS Church. I actually am encouraged to a degree that what I have read in LDS-heavy areas has not been as bad as those comments, even with some condemnatory comments in those areas.
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Re: Being Gay at BYU - Part 2

Post by dande48 » 30 Apr 2019, 08:29

nibbler wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 05:25
Don't look directly into the comments.

*Immediately looks at the comments*
. Thanks, Nibs.
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Re: Being Gay at BYU - Part 2

Post by DarkJedi » 30 Apr 2019, 15:23

:thumbup: :clap:

(I didn't look at the comments.)
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