dande48 wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2018, 18:45
SilentDawning wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2018, 17:53
I HONESTLY BELIEVE IF WE PUT ALL THE EFFORT WE PUT INTO HOME TEACHING/MINISTERING INTO MAKING OUR SUNDAY AND WEEKLY PROGRAMS ENGAGING AND INTERESTING AND SPIRITUALLY UPLIFTING, WE WOULD ACHIEVE MANY OF THE SAME RESULTS OR GREATER.
I don't think it's so much as the amount of effort, as the wrong type of effort.
I think you're saying that if we focused on ministering to the people in our Ward in ways that simply show love and kindness, we would be better off. I am starting to not like the term "ministering" either. it's too church focused.
a person authorized to conduct religious worship; member of the clergy; pastor.
a person authorized to administer sacraments, as at Mass.
a person appointed by or under the authority of a sovereign or head of a government to some high office of state, especially to that of head of an administrative department:
the minister of finance.
a diplomatic representative accredited by one government to another and ranking next below an ambassador.
Compare envoy1(def 1).
a person acting as the agent or instrument of another.
I would prefer the term "friend", or friendshipping, or "outreach" or "service"...
There were times people called HT service, but I felt it was there to serve the church organization -- to get people to come back so they could serve in a calling. Sure, there were obvious examples of service when families had tragedy's or old people were alone and needed help for things they could not do on their own. But much of the time was spent try to hunt down people, clean up records - drudgerous things like that.
And the return on investment for those activities is so low. It's much higher when you look for ways to help and serve the people, who through their behavior, show a natural inclination to be at church. And of course, the people who aren't at church and who have legitimate needs. I am starting to think it's time for a manifesto of what service means to me....the beginning of which is here:
a) Helping people who aren't able to help themselves.
b) Assisting people with getting skills that enable them to help themselves in the future
c) Comforting people who are suffering
d) Working with people who show interest to be worked with.
e) Helping people feel part of a positive, caring community.
It doesn't mean
1) cleaning up Ward records
2) trying to figure out why people don't come to church, and then trying to address those concerns
3) running myself ragged when I have other extra-church service opportunities that are bigger than the church
4) serving in areas of weakness where I have no passion -- for these, it's time to enlist the support of other people who are a better fit.
The situation i want to avoid is where we sit around and talk about the people who seem to "have the most potential" and then do a visit meant to engage in some short term strategy to get them back to church, which, if unsuccessful in bringing them back to church, means you move on to the next person.
The classic example was when our Bishop was relieased (a very ineffective, unpopular man), they installed a good, new Bishop, and I got three phone calls from various people saying "We want you back". I wonder if there was a GA talk on that subject and everyone was using it. After I gave a lukewarm response, they left me alone. It was like, if the phone call didn't work, they'd stop building the relationship again.
Anyway, what does "ministering" mean to you?