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Re: Swinging

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 13:53
by LookingHard
Richard Poll's talk is one of my most loved talks I have ever heard.

Re: Swinging

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 14:21
by Heber13
LookingHard wrote:Richard Poll's talk is one of my most loved talks I have ever heard.
Do you find very many people support Liahona members? Are they legitimate, or just what the Liahona member wants to legitimize?

Re: Swinging

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 16:24
by Curt Sunshine
I do find that, Heber13 - IF the spirit of the law members are open AND respectful and use regular Mormon-speak.

Re: Swinging

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 18:14
by LDS_Scoutmaster
Heber13 wrote:
You may be referring to Richard Poll's talk on What the Church Means to People Like Me.
Yes that's it! Thanks for posting the link, that's one that I've wanted to revisit but didn't remember where it was at.

I'm one of those that is partially an iron rod and liahona member at the same time on different issues, but I've become so much more forgiving and tolerant and accepting of others viewpoints, dare I say flaws. They sin differently than I do and I hope they don't condemn me for not living up to their standard, whatever standard that may be. I don't hold it against them if I think they are out in left field.

I often think to myself that if the Savior can forgive me for being such an idiot sometimes, I sure can let a lot slide from those around me.

Re: Swinging

Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 08:22
by LookingHard
Same here Scoutmaster. There are a few things I think are really important. For one that I am still much more on the iron rod side is a strong work ethic. My kids will tell you that I push them to work. I feel that it is important for people to be contributing to their own welfare, their family, and the community / world. I don't feel I have time to sit and watch endless TV or video games. There are things to do, people to help, things to experience.

But I have absolutely changed much of my orientation to be more of a Liahona kind of guy. I really don't care all that much if someone wants to be an Iron Rodder, with one exception. When that Rod is used to hurt someone else. Then I get rather pissed and want to chunk my Liahona upside their head.

Re: Swinging

Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 08:57
by SamBee
I had to do a double take at the title of this thread! Not what I thought it was, especially when I saw a Scout Master was involved. :lol: (Although seemingly it did go on in the early church!)