Meet with An Area Authority?

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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by Curt Sunshine » 13 May 2014, 07:50

You may be directed to the apologists for historical and doctrinal questions


Just to be clear, the AA did NOT say this. In fact, he explicitly said the opposite and referred to it as being like an addiction - or, at least, that was the outcome of the discussion about apologetics.
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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by Deepthinker » 13 May 2014, 16:07

Ray DeGraw wrote:
You may be directed to the apologists for historical and doctrinal questions


Just to be clear, the AA did NOT say this. In fact, he explicitly said the opposite and referred to it as being like an addiction - or, at least, that was the outcome of the discussion about apologetics.
Thanks Ray, that is correct. I think he understands that at least some apologetics can be unintentionally counter-productive.
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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by Deepthinker » 13 May 2014, 16:09

I just wanted to give another update. The AA gave me some things to read that went into some additional advice that might be helpful. I will try to summarize the best I can:
  • Accept that life has ambiguity. We don’t often have full information and the information we have comes from imperfect sources.
    Ultimate truth comes from God. Relying on what we perceive to be facts alone for truths about spiritual matters can be painful and frustrating.
    We should judge all facts with caution.
    Make allowances for human imperfections.
    We should examine motives and character of those providing facts.
    Give weight to the past experiences we have had that would relate.
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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by On Own Now » 13 May 2014, 16:38

DT,

That's all very good advice.

I would add that religion is subjective. When I was a believer, I thought I was being objective about it. Now that I'm an Atheist, I think I'm being objective about it. But the reality is that I was/am probably wrong either way; it is subjective.
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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by kinglamoni » 13 May 2014, 18:52

On Own Now wrote:DT,

That's all very good advice.

I would add that religion is subjective. When I was a believer, I thought I was being objective about it. Now that I'm an Atheist, I think I'm being objective about it. But the reality is that I was/am probably wrong either way; it is subjective.
Don't pick ether believer or Atheist. Become an agnostic. The most honest of answers. Ambiguity at its core. :smile:

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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by On Own Now » 13 May 2014, 19:27

I didn't pick Atheism... it picked me.
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"Let us therefore no longer pass judgment on one another, but resolve instead never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of another." ― Romans 14:13
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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by mackay11 » 13 May 2014, 21:28

This is great to read. Am really encouraged by this

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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by Deepthinker » 14 May 2014, 08:26

On Own Now wrote:DT,

That's all very good advice.

I would add that religion is subjective. When I was a believer, I thought I was being objective about it. Now that I'm an Atheist, I think I'm being objective about it. But the reality is that I was/am probably wrong either way; it is subjective.
Yes, it is subjective. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a valid source of truth for us individually. I doubt any of us can ever be truly objective about everything.
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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by kinglamoni » 14 May 2014, 09:46

On Own Now wrote:I didn't pick Atheism... it picked me.
I take a different approach. I choose for my self what to believe.

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Re: Meet with An Area Authority?

Post by On Own Now » 14 May 2014, 10:00

kinglamoni wrote:
On Own Now wrote:I didn't pick Atheism... it picked me.
I take a different approach. I choose for my self what to believe.
Haha. If only. If I could choose what to believe I'd be LDS all the way.

Congratulations on being an Agnostic. If Agnosticism works for you, great. If Gnosticism works for you, that's great, too. I'm not going to tell anyone which path they should take. Ultimately what we 'believe' is distinct from what path we choose.
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“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.” ― Carl Jung
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"Let us therefore no longer pass judgment on one another, but resolve instead never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of another." ― Romans 14:13
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