I agree with you here. I am positive that I myself am partially responsible for the deception. Some of this is my personality. Many (like my wife) are able to have a more heterodox view naturally. This has led me to question the wisdom of a single true path to God as defined by a single religion. Of course now, I'm at a place where I believe there are many paths to "God" and that it is a personal journey. For me, a healthy dose of skepticism is always good just to counteract my natural ability/curse to take things too much at face value. I think I've gotten better, but it has taken time, and I have to be very careful. My research about psychology has helped immensely in this process. Understanding how the mind perceives new information, IMHO, is critical to making good decisions.Heber13 wrote:Well worded response. You make your point clear and that has given me much to ponder about, and I'll probably need to go back and reread the post when I have more time, but thank you as this is exactly what I am searching for. My prior TBM paradigm did not seem to hold up and carry me through my recent crisis, and now I need to work through stage 4 to get to where I know what I believe anymore, and what I should be holding on to as literal, symbolic, and of value to my happiness. I have not viewed this as deception, but my own lack of understanding gospel principles because I never needed to dig for deeper meaning or application before. I put the deception on myself for deceiving myself with stage 3 faith.
Incidentally, I have a book in PDF format I could send you if you're interested. It's out of print now. I got a hold of it because I at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. It was written by a former CIA intelligence officer who was instrumental in describing how our psychology often prevents us from making good decisions. The application, obviously, is military intelligence, but it has nothing to do with religion, but rather is about the psychology of decision making.
Well, I hope I'm not coming across too strong (probably am). I think it's fair (and good to counteract my views) that some people view it another way. I certainly don't think it's the same kind of deception that a conman uses. And the fact that leaders, and TBMs have good intentions makes it manageable for me to understand, even if I don't agree with it.Heber13 wrote:I understand more of your position now. I think I get hung up on the word "deception" as a devious, intentional act tied to a specific leader. I need to better understand your "institutional deception" idea, which just may take some time to let it sink in.
Yes, I am looking forward to the discussions. I very much enjoy your comments and perspective.Heber13 wrote:The other element critical to our discussion here is really understanding revelation and how it works. More for us to discuss. Thanks for your post.