Are you a Skeptical Believer or a Faithful Doubter?

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Roy
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Re: Are you a Skeptical Believer or a Faithful Doubter?

Post by Roy » 20 Jan 2012, 13:42

I find more affinity with the term Faithful Doubter. I believe that I am contributing to the betterment of the organization through my doubts. Through the concept of optimal organizational conflict, a certain amount of disagreement and dissent in an organization is quite healthy.
Orson wrote:I also have faith in the potential of community, and see progress - even evolution - of community toward a greater good and a clearer understanding, however slow that progress may be.
I consider myself to be part of this progress/evolution - not necessarily because the church is evolving from a lesser to a greater state or from less truth to greater truth, but because I believe in the church's ability to adapt to the needs of the membership. As I calmly and quietly express my needs as different than the needs of previous generations and if those shifting needs are part of a greater trend among the rising generation at large then I may expect the church to slowly, ever so slowly, adapt to better meet those needs. OTOH if my needs are always part of a distant minority then it is less likely that I will see great shifts in this direction. Yet I stay, and by staying I contribute to the diversity and tolerance of the community as a whole. I see this effort as "faithful."
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Minyan Man
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Re: Are you a Skeptical Believer or a Faithful Doubter?

Post by Minyan Man » 20 Jan 2012, 15:21

Roy, I wish I was as optimistic. You said:
...I believe in the church's ability to adapt to the needs of the membership.
I come from a business or Corporate environment. A "Skeptical Believer" is usually looked at as working against the leadership, CEO or President of a company.
I have tried to play that role from time to time & the result is you're looked at as not a "team player". From my limited experience, most of the leaders in the LDS
church come from business backrounds & bring the same attitudes with them.

Mike from Milton.

afterall
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Re: Are you a Skeptical Believer or a Faithful Doubter?

Post by afterall » 20 Jan 2012, 20:42

I am so impressed by the ability of everyone to express themselves. Each of your answers has resonated with me. I guess I would say I am just a trying to hang in there believer. The primary song, "I'm trying to be like Jesus" runs through my head.

AmyJ
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Re: Are you a Skeptical Believer or a Faithful Doubter?

Post by AmyJ » 10 May 2018, 11:22

These 2 quotes summarize my current belief system, which is undergoing extensive rennovations :D
Brian Johnston wrote:
19 May 2010, 21:19
I'm a skeptical doubter. I am skeptical about my doubts :D
just me wrote:
20 May 2010, 12:58
I was a gullible believer. I've always believed everything everyone says. I believe everything my leaders told me. I believed way too much from books, Internet and TV. I have to struggle NOT to believe the crap people spew. Things that are proved false I can usually stop believing (now), but other than that I still wonder about a lot of things. I struggle not to believe conspiracy theories-they have as much "evidence" as anything else out there.
Now that I know just how easily people can rewrite history and "facts" can be altered. Well, I just don't know what to believe anymore. So I don't believe anything as a final truth or final say. Everything everyone ever says is merely their view of the world. That's cool. That is how it should be.

So now I am a skeptical nonbeliever. I don't even really believe my own beliefs. I don't even believe that sentence I just wrote. I don't believe anything at all. Everything is nuanced and paradoxical.

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Sheldon
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Re: Are you a Skeptical Believer or a Faithful Doubter?

Post by Sheldon » 18 May 2018, 14:47

Here is a blog post at Wheat and Tares that captures how I feel about this subject.

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