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Sacrament (3 Nephi 18:6-7, 3 Nephi 18:11)

Posted: 27 Feb 2018, 07:00
by AmyJ
3 Nephi 18:6-7
"And this shall ye always observe to do, even as I have done, even as I have broken bread and blessed it and given it unto you.
And this shall ye do in a remembrance of my body, which I have shown unto you. And it shall be a testimony unto the Father that ye do always remember me. And if ye do always remember me ye shall have my Spirit to be with you."

3 Nephi 18:11
"And this shall ye always do to those who repent and are baptized in my name; and ye shall do it in remembrance of my blood, which I have shed for you, that ye may witness unto the Father that ye do always remember me. And if ye do always remember me ye shall have my Spirit to be with you."

For me, when reading this version of the sacrament prayers as given by Jesus Christ to the Nephites, I wound up taking a more literal interpretation.

If/As we remember Jesus Christ and His sacrifices for us, I think we align our choices towards Jesus Christ and his teachings, so it feels like He is walking with us in our choices. We draw ourselves closer to Him. I used to always take these words to mean that we would qualify for having the Holy Ghost walk with us and guide us, but now I am open to a simpler explanation.

I don't know what the sacrament means to me at this point in my life. I think at the basic level, it is an opportunity to reflect on past choices and resolve/plan how to do better spiritually. Maybe a spiritual New Year's Eve equivalent?

What does the sacrament mean to you now? How did the meaning of the ritual of the sacrament change during your faith crisis/transition process?

Re: Sacrament (3 Nephi 18:6-7, 3 Nephi 18:11)

Posted: 27 Feb 2018, 11:08
by dande48
I still partake, and very much appreciate partaking in the sacrament, even though I don't subscribe to a literal belief. I appreciate the symbolism of taking a part of Christ, through His sacrifice, and making it a part of myself. I also enjoy, like you said, the opportunity to reflect on the past week.

There's a third part to the sacrament, that has particular meaning to me. Before the time of Christ, many of our "pagan" ancestors and tribes worshiped a "Corn King" archetype, which has many interesting ties to Christ. The holiday, "Lammas" is still practiced today over in Europe, to celebrate the sacrifice of this "Corn King" God, by participating in a sacrament-like ritual. Some of the Gods that were "Corn King" archetypes include Dumuzid (Mesopotamia), Osiris (Egyptian), Lugh (Celtic), Adonis (Greek), and Dionysus (also Greek). All of them share very similar themes, Dionysus especially. The "Corn King" is a God who dies, so his followers may live. And so must each of us sacrifice and one day die, so that those who come after us can live.

Re: Sacrament (3 Nephi 18:6-7, 3 Nephi 18:11)

Posted: 27 Feb 2018, 17:00
by DarkJedi
AmyJ wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 07:00
What does the sacrament mean to you now? How did the meaning of the ritual of the sacrament change during your faith crisis/transition process?
I find much more more meaning and symbolism in the sacrament post-faith crisis. This is one of those areas where my faith is stronger than previously. I could go on for quite a bit about the sacrament, but suffice it to say I see is as the "Bread of Life" and the "Living Water." It is the 10 minutes in the week where I have nothing else I need to do except remember the Savior - as he asked - and his atonement. In my view I am not "renewing my covenants," rather I am renewing my relationship with the Savior and if anything I am making a new covenant to always remember him and take his name (like in a family). One final thought: there is no "if" in either of the prayers.

Re: Sacrament (3 Nephi 18:6-7, 3 Nephi 18:11)

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 12:57
by Curt Sunshine
I see it much like DJ - and his last point is important to me.

The wording focuses on being blessed for being willing to do things - NOT for always succeeding in doing things and not for doing things perfectly.

Re: Sacrament (3 Nephi 18:6-7, 3 Nephi 18:11)

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 14:13
by DancingCarrot
I appreciate both DJ’s and Curt’s statements; given me a new perspective to consider and enjoy.


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Re: Sacrament (3 Nephi 18:6-7, 3 Nephi 18:11)

Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 12:46
by richalger
Curt Sunshine wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 12:57
blessed for being willing to do things - NOT for always succeeding in doing things and not for doing things perfectly.
Amen