People Who Were Spared...

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Re: People Who Were Spared...

Post by nibbler » 22 Feb 2018, 07:25

Behold, that great city Zarahemla have I burned with fire, and the inhabitants thereof.

And behold, that great city Moroni have I caused to be sunk in the depths of the sea, and the inhabitants thereof to be drowned.

And behold, that great city Moronihah have I covered with earth, and the inhabitants thereof, to hide their iniquities and their abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints shall not come any more unto me against them.

And behold, the city of Gilgal have I caused to be sunk, and the inhabitants thereof to be buried up in the depths of the earth;

Yea, and the city of Onihah and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Mocum and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Jerusalem and the inhabitants thereof; and waters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof, to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints shall not come up any more unto me against them.

And behold, the city of Gadiandi, and the city of Gadiomnah, and the city of Jacob, and the city of Gimgimno, all these have I caused to be sunk, and made hills and valleys in the places thereof; and the inhabitants thereof have I buried up in the depths of the earth, to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints should not come up any more unto me against them.

And behold, that great city Jacobugath, which was inhabited by the people of king Jacob, have I caused to be burned with fire because of their sins and their wickedness, which was above all the wickedness of the whole earth, because of their secret murders and combinations; for it was they that did destroy the peace of my people and the government of the land; therefore I did cause them to be burned, to destroy them from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints should not come up unto me any more against them.

And behold, the city of Laman, and the city of Josh, and the city of Gad, and the city of Kishkumen, have I caused to be burned with fire, and the inhabitants thereof, because of their wickedness in casting out the prophets, and stoning those whom I did send to declare unto them concerning their wickedness and their abominations.

And because they did cast them all out, that there were none righteous among them, I did send down fire and destroy them, that their wickedness and abominations might be hid from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints whom I sent among them might not cry unto me from the ground against them.

And many great destructions have I caused to come upon this land, and upon this people, because of their wickedness and their abominations.

O all ye that are spared because ye were more righteous than they, will ye not now return unto me, and repent of your sins, and be converted, that I may heal you?
This shortly before his resurrection but well after the entirety of his mortal ministry. Jesus must have hit a rough patch during the transition from being an OT god to a NT god.

I guess there's always a period of transition where things are getting ironed out. Also, I believe that in JS's zeal to restore all things he inadvertently restored many OT views that were meant to be buried in the past.

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Re: People Who Were Spared...

Post by dande48 » 22 Feb 2018, 08:11

nibbler wrote:
22 Feb 2018, 07:25
This shortly before his resurrection but well after the entirety of his mortal ministry. Jesus must have hit a rough patch during the transition from being an OT god to a NT god.
I've often heard this, that God changed his approach after the "atonement", to be a more loving and forgiving God... But looking at Christian history, it looks like God didn't mellow until the reformation. Not to mention, the major transition's He's undertaken in the past 100 years.

Which makes me wonder, who was setting the bar for Godhood, when Heavenly Father reached His exaltation? It feel's like He's had plenty of learning and growing to do. Thank goodness he has such wonderful children to teach Him.
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Re: People Who Were Spared...

Post by AmyJ » 22 Feb 2018, 09:55

dande48 wrote:
22 Feb 2018, 08:11
I've often heard this, that God changed his approach after the "atonement", to be a more loving and forgiving God... But looking at Christian history, it looks like God didn't mellow until the reformation. Not to mention, the major transition's He's undertaken in the past 100 years.

Which makes me wonder, who was setting the bar for Godhood, when Heavenly Father reached His exaltation? It feel's like He's had plenty of learning and growing to do. Thank goodness he has such wonderful children to teach Him.
My family found a science fiction/fantasy series about a human who was transitioned over into being a human entity in a space ship body sent to find other places for humanity to colonize safely. In the story, he winds up discovering and "shepherding" a post-fire pre-spear civilization - and quite a few adventures the human and the civilization have are based on the extermination of threats to the civilization and then have others unexpectedly show up. My description is poor, but it has given me food for thought about godhood...

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