My Latest Favorite Anthem

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mom3
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My Latest Favorite Anthem

Post by mom3 » 14 Feb 2017, 21:09

On this Valentine's Day I thought I would share the hymn that has taken up residence in my heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcL9S5a3weU
"I stayed because it was God and Jesus Christ that I wanted to follow and be like, not individual human beings." Chieko Okazaki Dialogue interview

"I am coming to envision a new persona for the Church as humble followers of Jesus Christ....Joseph and his early followers came forth with lots of triumphalist rhetoric, but I think we need a new voice, one of humility, friendship and service. We should teach people to believe in God because it will soften their hearts and make them more willing to serve." - Richard Bushman

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Re: My Latest Favorite Anthem

Post by Minyan Man » 14 Feb 2017, 21:31

That was wonderful. What a beautiful message.

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Re: My Latest Favorite Anthem

Post by SamBee » 15 Feb 2017, 04:04

Not bad!
DASH1730 "An Area Authority...[was] asked...who...would go to the Telestial kingdom. His answer: "murderers, adulterers and a lot of surprised Mormons!"'
1ST PRES 1978 "[LDS] believe...there is truth in many religions and philosophies...good and great religious leaders... have raised the spiritual, moral, and ethical awareness of their people. When we speak of The [LDS] as the only true church...it is...authorized to administer the ordinances...by Jesus Christ... we do not mean... it is the only teacher of truth."

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Re: My Latest Favorite Anthem

Post by SamBee » 15 Feb 2017, 04:11

I always think our version of this is anemic. The Welsh do it better.

https://youtu.be/l5NOVcefEYU
DASH1730 "An Area Authority...[was] asked...who...would go to the Telestial kingdom. His answer: "murderers, adulterers and a lot of surprised Mormons!"'
1ST PRES 1978 "[LDS] believe...there is truth in many religions and philosophies...good and great religious leaders... have raised the spiritual, moral, and ethical awareness of their people. When we speak of The [LDS] as the only true church...it is...authorized to administer the ordinances...by Jesus Christ... we do not mean... it is the only teacher of truth."

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Re: My Latest Favorite Anthem

Post by DarkJedi » 15 Feb 2017, 05:07

Love it. Thanks Mom!
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Once there was a gentile...who came before Hillel. He said "Convert me on the condition that you teach me the whole Torah while I stand on one foot." Hillel converted him, saying: That which is despicable to you, do not do to your fellow, this is the whole Torah, and the rest is commentary, go and learn it."

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Re: My Latest Favorite Anthem

Post by Ann » 15 Feb 2017, 10:06

Thanks, mom! Beautiful lyrics that will ring in my mind all day. I'm always looking for things that I think Mutual-age kids could do. There are tons of arrangements, one by Mac Wilberg. ("Here I Am, Lord") But I really like it as a straight-up hymn in the one you posted.
SamBee wrote:The Welsh do it better.
Duh, of course! :lol: But I still think that when LDS wards are clicking, we have great congregational singing. The trick lately, I think, is keeping our skills up by singing and loving the "good stuff" of the hymnal.
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Post by Minyan Man » 15 Feb 2017, 11:18

A question: can a ward choir director go ahead and use it in a sacrament meeting?
Or, do they have to jump thru hoops & get permission, etc to use a song that is considered "outside" the lds church hymn book?

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Post by mom3 » 15 Feb 2017, 11:18

But I still think that when LDS wards are clicking, we have great congregational singing. The trick lately, I think, is keeping our skills up by singing and loving the "good stuff" of the hymnal.
Amen Sister.

My favorite line
I will go Lord, if you lead me, I will hold your people in my heart.

Miniyan Man - It is Methodist so I assume we can borrow it since many of our hymns have Methodist beginnings.
"I stayed because it was God and Jesus Christ that I wanted to follow and be like, not individual human beings." Chieko Okazaki Dialogue interview

"I am coming to envision a new persona for the Church as humble followers of Jesus Christ....Joseph and his early followers came forth with lots of triumphalist rhetoric, but I think we need a new voice, one of humility, friendship and service. We should teach people to believe in God because it will soften their hearts and make them more willing to serve." - Richard Bushman

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Re: My Latest Favorite Anthem

Post by DarkJedi » 15 Feb 2017, 12:19

mom3 wrote:
But I still think that when LDS wards are clicking, we have great congregational singing. The trick lately, I think, is keeping our skills up by singing and loving the "good stuff" of the hymnal.
Amen Sister.

My favorite line
I will go Lord, if you lead me, I will hold your people in my heart.

Miniyan Man - It is Methodist so I assume we can borrow it since many of our hymns have Methodist beginnings.
Another amen, sisters.

MM, I agree with Mom. From handbook 2 (14.4.2)
The hymns are the basic music for worship services and are standard for all congregational singing. In addition, other appropriate selections may be used for prelude and postlude music, choir music, and special musical presentations. If musical selections other than the hymns are used, they should be in keeping with the spirit of the hymns. Texts should be doctrinally correct. (See “Hymns for Congregations,” Hymns, 380–81.)
I think this one is definitely in the spirit of the hymns (as pointed out, it is a Methodist hymn and is found in other hymnals) and I think the text is doctrinally correct.

Soapbox: Actually one of the "special numbers" I used to hear a lot, but not as much recently, is I Heard Him Come. While mostly correct, this line seems to me to be not doctrinally correct:
Nations fall behind him
The rivers crawl to find him.
Mountains move
Just to let him through.
I don't see anywhere in scripture where nations fell behind him, rivers crawled to find him or mountains moved just to let him through. It was a pet peeve of mine. I don't see where it could be said those lines are doctrinally correct. (end rant)
In the absence of knowledge or faith there is always hope.

Once there was a gentile...who came before Hillel. He said "Convert me on the condition that you teach me the whole Torah while I stand on one foot." Hillel converted him, saying: That which is despicable to you, do not do to your fellow, this is the whole Torah, and the rest is commentary, go and learn it."

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Re: My Latest Favorite Anthem

Post by mom3 » 15 Feb 2017, 16:22

I don't see anywhere in scripture where nations fell behind him, rivers crawled to find him or mountains moved just to let him through. It was a pet peeve of mine. I don't see where it could be said those lines are doctrinally correct.
I totally picture a Jon McNaughton picture. Christ in the middle and nations all lying in the dust, smoke billowing from the carnage. Or Oroville Dam flooding behind him. You know like it happened in the New Testament.
"I stayed because it was God and Jesus Christ that I wanted to follow and be like, not individual human beings." Chieko Okazaki Dialogue interview

"I am coming to envision a new persona for the Church as humble followers of Jesus Christ....Joseph and his early followers came forth with lots of triumphalist rhetoric, but I think we need a new voice, one of humility, friendship and service. We should teach people to believe in God because it will soften their hearts and make them more willing to serve." - Richard Bushman

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