I believe that is the definition of "antichrist". Right?Cnsl1 wrote:When we get people to do things because we make them believe "God" wants it, we can get them to do some pretty horrific things.
Cnsl1...do you think there has been more "bad" done in the world in the name of God than there has been "good"? Should we throw out the baby with the bathwater?
This is a good point. But...is there a difference based on intent? I would say Korihor is an example of someone trying justify actions with ideas (of course...he was not using God's justification but the opposite...but the same idea is at play). He knew what he was doing, and was using ideas to justify what he knew was wrong. People can use God in that way. And that is wrong.Cnsl1 wrote: I just don't accept or like the idea of using God to justify actions that clearly hurt people
Is it different when a person is trying to do what they think is right...and says God told them to do it. That isn't justification. It isn't really the same thing. Right? Or...how do you see it?
For example...is there a difference between these two things:
1) Joseph Smith is unsatisfied in his marriage, and starting to feel power feeding his ego, and wants young brides to feed his desire...and therefore gives "revelations" to start to justify polygamy;
2) Joseph is reading the Old Testament, and wants to know about concubines and how that is allowed, and feels God telling him to restore all things...if it was good for the prophet Abraham, Joseph should also restore this principle. He doesn't know how to do it....but he feels strongly God is telling him to live this law.
The outcome is 33 wives, some young women, some cover up at times, some manipulation to Emma, some mistakes, some repentance, some adoption in the sealing process, etc..
Does that outcome matter if it is rooted in #1 vs. #2?