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Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 10:13
by Cadence
Could any sentient being actually live with its same consciousness for eternity? A billion years maybe but 10 to the tenth years I can not see it. You would go insane with the sheer monotony of having done everything. Maybe reincarnation would work by allowing you to continue to exist, but starting over each time thus creating a new reality. Or maybe we are just better off only existing for a brief moment. Eternity seems like such a long time to be the same being.

Re: Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 10:28
by DarkJedi
This is just supposition, not doctrine or any official teaching of anyone. Please see it as what it is, and it is simply thinking out loud.

Could it be that part of eternal progression is that our own consciousness, our own sentientness (I know that's not a word), expands and evolves to a state that is beyond our current comprehension as well? In other words how do you know we'll be the same a billion years from now? I think our "intelligences" that eventually became "spirit children" and eventually us (if indeed such a thing ever did occur) were probably quite different from what we now are. Although I cannot comprehend it, I'm not sure there is an end state to eternal progression.

Re: Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 13:01
by Curt Sunshine
It's better to me than the alternative.

Also, what DJ said. Eternal progression, as a concept, is one of my favorite things about our theology.

Re: Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 13:08
by On Own Now
Cadence,

I agree. There were a few nights when I was a kid that I couldn't sleep because I was so weirded-out by the idea of never-ending... never... ever... ever...

I suspect that even among believers, it's probably better just to leave the next life to itself and concentrate on this one.

One Atheist's view:
There is nothing frightening about an eternal dreamless sleep. Surely it is better than eternal torment in Hell and eternal boredom in Heaven. -- Isaac Asimov

Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 17:48
by Daeruin
I think it's possible that the way we experience the passage of time would be qualitatively different once we reach a certain level of progression. St. Thomas Aquinas thought that time itself was an illusion, a limited way of experiencing life in mortality.


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Re: Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 18:23
by DarkJedi
Daeruin wrote:I think it's possible that the way we experience the passage of time would be qualitatively different once we reach a certain level of progression. St. Thomas Aquinas thought that time itself was an illusion, a limited way of experiencing life in mortality.
I do agree that time is not necessarily eternal. I don't think we can understand it because our understanding is limited. As far as I can tell time is a human invention, perhaps nothing more than a myth.

Re: Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 18:40
by InquiringMind
The Mormon afterlife is probably the most interesting of any religion that I know of - creating planets and worlds and populating them with one's own children. Protestant heaven sounds pretty boring - sitting on a cloud strumming your harp and eating all the junk food you want. Muslim heaven sounds a little better. The Mormon CK is the most grandiose of any afterlife I've heard of, but I guess that some people might not want that afterlife.

We do release our consciousness every day during our sleep. So we do need a daily break from consciousness.

Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 19:40
by Cadence
In a trillion or more years every star in the universe will burn out. There will be no more light. I think when we think of eternity we think in terms that a human can comprehend. But the knowen universe is only 14 billion years old or so. Multiply that by 1000 and you still have not touched eternity. It seems inconceivable that anything even God can endure forever. When we say we will live forever we have no idea what we are talking about.

Re: Eternity?

Posted: 18 May 2014, 20:38
by Oneofmany
I used to have a fascination with concept of infinite and eternity and realized, I just can't comprehend them. (Granted my fascination was more in a mathematical real.) This subject has been known to cause people to lose their minds and not just speaking in a religious sense. (For a good mathematical interesting read on the subject that can be understood, I recommend reading the book "mystery of the Alph" (It is supposed to be the infinity symbol but I couldn't find it in any of the options.)) Basically, what it comes down to for me in both mathematics and here, I don't comprehend it. I can use it for some important conclusions but I don't completely understand.

Re: Eternity?

Posted: 19 May 2014, 03:38
by DarkJedi
Cadence wrote:In a trillion or more years every star in the universe will burn out. There will be no more light. I think when we think of eternity we think in terms that a human can comprehend. But the knowen universe is only 14 billion years old or so. Multiply that by 1000 and you still have not touched eternity. It seems inconceivable that anything even God can endure forever. When we say we will live forever we have no idea what we are talking about.
Forever may be a relative term. I know we're getting abstract here, but consider how we use words. We say thinks like "We've always done it this way" or "We've always had a cat" or "The church has always taught that we're eternal." But in those case always is relative to some starting point and will eventually have an end point that we are currently unaware of. Because time is an invention to help people try to understand the world around us, perhaps we also use "forever" or "eternal" as relative terms without really understanding that they have a finite nature.

There's also the Joseph Smith explanation of eternity being like a ring, "one eternal round." I've heard this being compared to an old video game as well - when you go off the edge of the right side of the screen, you reappear on the left side. This explanation does not make it any easier to understand.