ydeve wrote: ↑
17 Jul 2017, 08:27
To clarify, the talk wasn't the peanuts. The talk was pressuring everyone to eat the peanuts and how our friends all must have peanuts for proper nutrition. And how it's our sacred duty to ensure that everyone eats peanuts. With the strong implication that suggesting that anyone is allergic to peanuts is blasphemy.
That's a good point. I can almost imagine them saying something like...
Leader: "Look, we honestly didn't know some people were allergic to peanuts, we thought they were just making excuses not to eat it cause they didn't like them or they wanted to eat something else. Now that we know, we have changed our stance on peanuts. All those who faithfully obeyed in the past and died because of eating what they were told to eat, God will make it right in the next life and they shall have their reward."
<observer in the back>: "Or you could have just stopped making people feel obligated to eat peanuts in the first place, and your followers shunning people who were honestly trying to avoid poison to them...it took you too long to learn that what may be good for some people in Utah county is not always the best for everyone else in the world. To quote an apostle of the Lord: 'Ultimately, we are all accountable to God for our choices and the lives we live.'....that includes you!"
...I could see some future thing that feels kinda like that will be what happens.
That is why the talk is so offensive. It's not just something that some people should ignore. It perpetuates a culture of forcing people to partake of things that are deadly to them and shunning those who choose not to.
It can have that feel to it, especially when filling in the blanks and seeing it in the context of what nibbler was pointing out when nibbler said:
nibbler wrote: Official church communication sometimes takes on a passive approach. We don't talk about gay marriage in direct terms, we use phrases like "religious freedom" with a nod and a wink where most people believe they know the real topic being addressed.
Perhaps the talk is about being a nutritionist coach, and their job is to tell people what is healthy to eat...and they are just doing their job. The problem is, among other things, they stand fast on peanuts are necessary for everyone.
Therefore...toxic message when the background is what it is. A nutritionist coach doing their job isn't the problem...but the fact they insisted on peanuts as the only option...that is the problem.
I agree, ydeve...I try to think through these things on how we can have love and support leaders trying to teach love...but I don't know how to get around the things they've said in the past...even if they try as hard as they can to say it nicely...it is just reinforcing the culture against poison.
Good for me to think through and remember.