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by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 16:22
Forum: Support
Topic: How would I accept a calling?
Replies: 13
Views: 603

Re: How would I accept a calling?

Anyway, I tell this story to illustrate that the way calling are given is set up to guilt you into saying yes, in my opinion. It sounds like you, DarkJedi, are not afraid to be open about yourself to your bishop, for me it would be very hard. I just want to be anonymous at church. I also agree that...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 15:56
Forum: Support
Topic: It shouldn't be this hard to baptize a child.
Replies: 17
Views: 717

Re: It shouldn't be this hard to baptize a child.

I'm sorry to hear this has been such an ordeal. To me, this comes down to a letter of the law vs. spirit of the law thing. This certainly seems like a special enough occasion as to warrant an exception. My bet is that if it were one of the grandchildren of a member of the stake presidency it would b...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 13:14
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What does it mean to sustain?
Replies: 82
Views: 2302

Re: What does it mean to sustain?

Suppose there is a spectrum of sustaining with the most hardcore definitions of sustaining on one extreme end and subversive apostasy on the other end. If I find myself on the sustaining side of the median then I feel justified in answering yes with no further explanation necessary. I might further...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 13:04
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What does it mean to sustain?
Replies: 82
Views: 2302

Re: What does it mean to sustain?

Thanks, SilentDawning. So when you're asked the question in a TR interview I presume you answer in the affirmative (or would if you don't actually go to TR interviews)? Yes, I would say "yes, I sustain local leaders"...this is because I physically raise my hand, which indicates I am OK with the lea...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 12:53
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What does it mean to sustain?
Replies: 82
Views: 2302

Re: What does it mean to sustain?

Upon further thought I came up with this. To sustain someone is to accept them in that position. Does it mean that I think the calling was inspired? Nope. Does it mean that I won't undermine their authority? Absolutely. Does it mean that I will help out (when I can) for them to be successful? Yes. ...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 10:51
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What does it mean to sustain?
Replies: 82
Views: 2302

Re: What does it mean to sustain?

To sustain, in my view, is to be willing to let the person be called to the position. It means I do not oppose the local leadership's decision to call them. It's simply a filter that allows members to influence the local leadership in their decision's to appoint someone as a leader. It can be effec...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 10:48
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What does it mean to sustain?
Replies: 82
Views: 2302

Re: What does it mean to sustain?

I'm looking for clarification - I'm not sure I'm seeing the connection between sustaining my local leaders and loving my neighbor (which seems to be a whole different subject). If the EQP calls and asks for help then I believe it would be sustaining him in his calling to lend a hand. I also believe...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 08:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What does it mean to sustain?
Replies: 82
Views: 2302

Re: What does it mean to sustain?

Vote yes is you're ok with what they're doing or called to do and are willing to support them ( show up and do what needs to be done when they ask for help). Don't vote if you don't care. Vote no if you're willing to stand up and say why. Sustaining has less to do with raising your hand out of refl...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 08:08
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What does it mean to sustain?
Replies: 82
Views: 2302

Re: What does it mean to sustain?

Does it matter what we think sustain mean? I'm sure we will get some nuanced responses here...but so what? When it comes down to it we know what the church meaning of sustain is. And what the membership expects and believes it means. I'm fine if we want to fantasize about the ideal church. But IMO,...
by DarkJedi
29 Aug 2013, 06:42
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What does it mean to sustain?
Replies: 82
Views: 2302

What does it mean to sustain?

As you may know, I am in the process of rebuilding my faith. As a framework for doing so, I have considered many things, including but not limited to the Articles of Faith and the temple recommend questions. I will below give you some insight into where I'm at, but the question is "What does it mean...