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by DarkJedi
05 Jul 2018, 11:51
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Wayward children of faithful LDS parents
Replies: 22
Views: 450

Re: Wayward children of faithful LDS parents

Next month I have a speaking assignment on family history. I know, why did I accept such an assignment when I dislike FH so much? It's complicated, but it's not going to be a traditional talk by any means. The central theme will be this idea that we're all sealed together as on big family and that s...
by DarkJedi
05 Jul 2018, 11:36
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Update
Replies: 8
Views: 242

Re: Update

Thanks for sharing and giving us the update. I'm glad you're happy and hope you continue to find the peace you seek.
by DarkJedi
05 Jul 2018, 11:34
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 53
Views: 917

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

I pretty much agree. Even if they ask, don't share because they don't really want to know. I sometimes struggle with how to nicely and respectfully respond to the question, though.
by DarkJedi
03 Jul 2018, 14:47
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Joseph F. Smith - Section 138
Replies: 8
Views: 263

Re: Joseph F. Smith - Section 138

I've also heard that any faithful parent who makes it to the celestial kingdom will have all their children saved with them, even if those children should fall away. "The Prophet Joseph Smith declared—and he never taught more comforting doctrine—that the eternal sealings of faithful parents and the...
by DarkJedi
03 Jul 2018, 14:38
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Joseph F. Smith - Section 138
Replies: 8
Views: 263

Re: Joseph F. Smith - Section 138

He had this vision roughly 4-6 weeks before his death (at 80 years of age).Could it be influenced by his impending death from pleurisy/pneumonia? Certainly. Illnesses do all kinds of things to the brain. Is it also possible it was truly a Godly vision? Yes. He had 5 plural wives and 50 children (5 ...
by DarkJedi
03 Jul 2018, 08:42
Forum: Support
Topic: Suicide and Hell - LDS Answer 2018
Replies: 18
Views: 454

Re: Suicide and Hell - LDS Answer 2018

Thanks for sharing. I agree that the article seems to address treating the symptom but it's a big step in the right direction. I liked Renlund's quote about there being someone in your ward contemplating suicide because I think that's a wakeup call for many. "In the quiet heart is hidden sorrow that...
by DarkJedi
25 Jun 2018, 15:32
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Alan Watts
Replies: 18
Views: 441

Re: Alan Watts

I agree, Dande, and my experience is similar to yours in that my morality has stayed essentially the same. Of course that's really because of things we somehow learned before we can remember learning anything but it is what it is. I didn't mean to imply that those who pay tithing as fire insurance o...
by DarkJedi
25 Jun 2018, 12:43
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Alan Watts
Replies: 18
Views: 441

Re: Alan Watts

Heber13 wrote:
25 Jun 2018, 07:44
I'm a huge C&H fan. Thanks for that!!

It's actually a very good response...I'll take it anyway...because...we are here, now.
I am also a Calvin & Hobbes fan. But most of the members I know are more like Calvin in this case - doing what they're doing only because of the reward.
by DarkJedi
24 Jun 2018, 05:02
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The New Inactives - Seniors
Replies: 21
Views: 674

Re: The New Inactives - Seniors

I guess to clarify. In my ward there are two (maybe three) kinds of seniors. There are the ones who travel, etc., and there are ones who just stop coming for the most part and become Christmas and Mother's Day members. I've known a couple of them - formerly very active - who just announce they are r...
by DarkJedi
23 Jun 2018, 09:15
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The New Inactives - Seniors
Replies: 21
Views: 674

Re: The New Inactives - Seniors

It happens here and I get it. I have watched (and been a part of) our aging ward. I live in an area where people leave. Rarely does a child hang around. They go off to college (BYU or not), find a job elsewhere and get married and live there. That leaves us parents traveling to see them and our gran...