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by DarkJedi
14 Apr 2018, 04:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: If Church's stance on LGBT persons is an Issue for you, how do you Deal with it?
Replies: 35
Views: 528

Re: If Church's stance on Gays is an Issue for you, how do you Deal with it?

Simple: It's a bad policy from a flawed organization run by flawed people. I don't expect there to be gay sealings, but not labeling them as sinners/apostates and robbing them of their temple recommends wouldn't be too much to ask. The policies have gotten better over the years (mostly), but the th...
by DarkJedi
13 Apr 2018, 20:42
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: "The CES Letter"
Replies: 9
Views: 210

Re: "The CES Letter"

There is a FINALLY a new adult SS curriculum due out next year. I am expecting it to be a huge departure from the current very old curriculum, based much more on Teaching in the Savior's Way, ... YASS!!!! ...and much more in line with the new PH/RS curriculum. Wait, does that mean we'll take turns ...
by DarkJedi
13 Apr 2018, 11:33
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: "The CES Letter"
Replies: 9
Views: 210

Re: "The CES Letter"

Just some random thoughts as I read through the posts here. Runnels is an anti and his arguments are in fact just rehashed and consolidated anti arguments that have been around forever. Frankly I do believe Runnels may have been well intentioned at first but lost it along the way. But I also agree t...
by DarkJedi
11 Apr 2018, 09:24
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: May I have your, Belief-O-Matic, please?
Replies: 31
Views: 1165

Re: May I have your, Belief-O-Matic, please?

I had taken this a few years back but I don't fully remember my stats except the top one was Unitarian Univeralism. That's somewhat interesting because I think I do gravitate in that direction and could actually see myself going there were I to leave Mormonism. UU came in at #2 this time, LDS did no...
by DarkJedi
10 Apr 2018, 08:03
Forum: Support
Topic: Root of my faith crisis - trust
Replies: 21
Views: 494

Re: Root of my faith crisis - trust

Yesterday was 1 step forward, 2 steps back. Step forward: reading FAIRLDS and discovering that there is no evidence that Joseph's polyandry was sexual in nature. Points for Joseph Smith. 2 Steps back: the church has taken down a few statistical websites: https://ldschurchtemples.org/statistics/unit...
by DarkJedi
10 Apr 2018, 05:01
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Everyone will be tried as Abraham...
Replies: 11
Views: 339

Re: Everyone will be tried as Abraham...

I also don't take it literally, and as you point out (and Curt has said here many times) it is very possible Abraham failed that test. I have heard this idea we'll all be tested as Abraham was before, and actually fairly recently. Along with that was the idea we must all have a "Joseph Smith experie...
by DarkJedi
09 Apr 2018, 09:42
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Kirby and misplaced faith
Replies: 13
Views: 339

Re: Kirby and misplaced faith

This is a very important topic. It is important to place our faith where it cannot be shaken. That is in the rock, Jesus Christ. The tricky part is that we learn of Jesus initially from only fallible sources, people, books even scripture. The trick is to connect to the Holy Spirit. And that is tric...
by DarkJedi
09 Apr 2018, 09:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Kirby and misplaced faith
Replies: 13
Views: 339

Re: Kirby and misplaced faith

How is the person struggling with a loss of faith to feel when they would like to move on from having "misplaced" faith but they find themselves in a culture that has elements that both chides them for having faith in the wrong thing and there is pressure to place their faith in the wrong thing? Fu...
by DarkJedi
09 Apr 2018, 04:56
Forum: Support
Topic: Worth it?
Replies: 8
Views: 247

Re: Worth it?

If the question is how sharing the BoM affected you, if you have shared it you could talk about how you felt then if you feel comfortable with that. Otherwise I might just go with a succinct "The Book of Mormon is a great book that testifies of Christ and can bring people closer to Heavenly Father a...
by DarkJedi
08 Apr 2018, 18:05
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Kirby and misplaced faith
Replies: 13
Views: 339

Re: Kirby and misplaced faith

I don't like this statement that if people's behavior makes you lose your faith, that your faith was misplaced -- it's the old "it's the members fault" argument. It relieves the church of any responsibility. It is a license to kill, so to speak. In my case, church leader and member behavior hurt my...